Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab
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@david.wiese You could look at it that way, sure. We just don't agree, which is okay. Everyone sets the value of anything they purchase for any reason. To me, the increased speed of my education is worth the cost.
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@david-wiese : I agree 1000% about the people skills.
That's something a lot of IT folks seem to lose the higher up the ladder they go.
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Maybe the OP question itself is wrong and should be more like "are you willing to spend free time to learn?".
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@thwr said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
Maybe the OP question itself is wrong and should be more like "are you willing to spend free time to learn?".
That could be another way to write it.
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@thwr I agree with maybe renaming the question but I dont agree with telling SAM he is wrong. Could get ugly:-)
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@alex.olynyk said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@thwr I agree with maybe renaming the question but I dont agree with telling SAM he is wrong. Could get ugly:-)
That's ok. We now each other just for a few months but already had some discussions
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I don't tell @scottalanmiller that he's wrong. I just umm.... enthusiastically discuss my stance.
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@alex.olynyk said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@thwr I agree with maybe renaming the question but I dont agree with telling SAM he is wrong. Could get ugly:-)
I do it all the time.
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@JaredBusch said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@alex.olynyk said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@thwr I agree with maybe renaming the question but I dont agree with telling SAM he is wrong. Could get ugly:-)
I do it all the time.
It gets ugly all the time
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lol
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@wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
lol
Guys, big SAM is watching you
He just posted something a second ago -
@thwr He's got a sense of humor. I don't think he would be upset
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@wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@thwr He's got a sense of humor. I don't think he would be upset
Hopefully this is not the last thing we hear from you
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Well we know @scottalanmiller did something to him if @wirestyle22 gets disappeared.
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@dafyre I'm just an AI anyway guys. This is what your tax dollars bought. I know, disappointing.
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@wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@dafyre I'm just an AI anyway guys. This is what your tax dollars bought. I know, disappointed.
what's the I in AI? Just kidding
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@thwr said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@dafyre I'm just an AI anyway guys. This is what your tax dollars bought. I know, disappointed.
what's the I in AI? Just kidding
Illiterate
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@wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@thwr said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@wirestyle22 said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@dafyre I'm just an AI anyway guys. This is what your tax dollars bought. I know, disappointed.
what's the I in AI? Just kidding
Illiterate
That's ok. But we are getting a bit off-topic here.
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@thwr said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@Dashrender said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@thwr said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@Dashrender said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@david.wiese said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
The question that should be asked is does the dedication to the IT industry mean you should sacrifice your hobbies?
A better question, if IT isn't your hobby, should you have a different job? One that more closely matches you true likes and desires.
Would you ask a car mechanic the same who doesn't want to fix cars in his free time?
If I'm hiring a car mechanic for high end cars or something like Indy car racing - absolutely, and if they said no.. I'd bin their application. NTG is at the top of the field. Some companies put themselves there. They want the most enthusiastic for IT group they can get. As Danielle said, you can't teach enthusiasm, but you can teach skills. So far, their needs have been met buy people with either both enthusiasm and skills or just enthusiasm, and they taught them the skills. when the work pool starts to dry up, and they have fewer choices, they will have to be less picky on who they pick.
I agree from a personal point of view. But I can't expect everyone to be like this. Maybe someone just wants to do his job, that's ok. We should keep a few things in mind here:
- Salary
- Position
- Goals
for example. I wouldn't expect a Level 1 helpdesk tech to have a small datacenter in his basement, he care barely live from what he carries home. If we are talking about a 100-150k+ position, it's a whole different story.
and I wouldn't expect NTG to higher a Level 1 helpdesk person either. I had junk equipment in the mid 90's in my apt for lab gear that I paid pennies for, just so I would have stuff to learn on.
I suppose I could agree that as you get older (north of 35) the need for a home lab is less (especially because of today's options), but when you're young.... you need to be hungry! If you don't want to spend a lot of time learning/playing with this stuff, then I ask, is this really the field for you?
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@Dashrender said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@thwr said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@Dashrender said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@thwr said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@Dashrender said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@david.wiese said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
The question that should be asked is does the dedication to the IT industry mean you should sacrifice your hobbies?
A better question, if IT isn't your hobby, should you have a different job? One that more closely matches you true likes and desires.
Would you ask a car mechanic the same who doesn't want to fix cars in his free time?
If I'm hiring a car mechanic for high end cars or something like Indy car racing - absolutely, and if they said no.. I'd bin their application. NTG is at the top of the field. Some companies put themselves there. They want the most enthusiastic for IT group they can get. As Danielle said, you can't teach enthusiasm, but you can teach skills. So far, their needs have been met buy people with either both enthusiasm and skills or just enthusiasm, and they taught them the skills. when the work pool starts to dry up, and they have fewer choices, they will have to be less picky on who they pick.
I agree from a personal point of view. But I can't expect everyone to be like this. Maybe someone just wants to do his job, that's ok. We should keep a few things in mind here:
- Salary
- Position
- Goals
for example. I wouldn't expect a Level 1 helpdesk tech to have a small datacenter in his basement, he care barely live from what he carries home. If we are talking about a 100-150k+ position, it's a whole different story.
and I wouldn't expect NTG to higher a Level 1 helpdesk person either. I had junk equipment in the mid 90's in my apt for lab gear that I paid pennies for, just so I would have stuff to learn on.
I suppose I could agree that as you get older (north of 35) the need for a home lab is less (especially because of today's options), but when you're young.... you need to be hungry! If you don't want to spend a lot of time learning/playing with this stuff, then I ask, is this really the field for you?
I'm hungry literally and figuratively. What I wouldn't give for a cheeseburger and a book.
