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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @thwr
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      @thwr said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

      @scottalanmiller Well, at least here, that's what people are interessted in. And it isn't about just a few, it's about whole industries with millions of employees:

      • 5 day work week (1959)
      • Paid vacation time consessions (1962)
      • 40 hr work week (1965–67)
      • Paid sick leave (1970)
      • 35 hr work week (attempts not yet successful 1984)
      • 34 hr work week in metal industry (1995)

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Metall

      Green chart here is salary increase since 1993: http://oeffentlicher-dienst.info/vergleich/entwicklung1/

      And that's all what a lot of people care about.

      Edit: This doesn't reflect my personal opinion!

      How many of those things exist without the union or how different are they?

      In the US, at least, the effects of a union doing something good for workers is that the jobs vanish and the workers have to go elsewhere to get any work. When they do bad things for workers they gain control over whole regions and leave people without employment options and no means of earning additional money.

      I've lived in Flint, MI... a city totally destroyed by the unions that did "good" things for the workers... until all of the workers were fired and the company left.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

        @thwr said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

        @scottalanmiller Well, at least here, that's what people are interessted in. And it isn't about just a few, it's about whole industries with millions of employees:

        • 5 day work week (1959)
        • Paid vacation time consessions (1962)
        • 40 hr work week (1965–67)
        • Paid sick leave (1970)
        • 35 hr work week (attempts not yet successful 1984)
        • 34 hr work week in metal industry (1995)

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Metall

        Green chart here is salary increase since 1993: http://oeffentlicher-dienst.info/vergleich/entwicklung1/

        And that's all what a lot of people care about.

        Edit: This doesn't reflect my personal opinion!

        How many of those things exist without the union or how different are they?

        In the US, at least, the effects of a union doing something good for workers is that the jobs vanish and the workers have to go elsewhere to get any work. When they do bad things for workers they gain control over whole regions and leave people without employment options and no means of earning additional money.

        I've lived in Flint, MI... a city totally destroyed by the unions that did "good" things for the workers... until all of the workers were fired and the company left.

        The sad thing is, all those union workers see is what they think is a higher pay, more benefits, when in reality, they killing the company.

        Frankly, I don't know how Ford still has any factories in the US at all.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

          Frankly, I don't know how Ford still has any factories in the US at all.

          It's amazing... and very few. They rely heavily on shipping costs and tariffs to artificially keep some of the jobs making sense here.

          And what the unions also leave out is that everyone in the country pays more for cars because of it. There is a reason that I can buy the same cars in Europe for a fraction of the price.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

            The sad thing is, all those union workers see is what they think is a higher pay, more benefits, when in reality, they killing the company.

            They gamble that making a few extra bucks today will be better than their kids having jobs tomorrow.

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            • travisdh1T
              travisdh1 @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

              @scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

              @thwr said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

              @scottalanmiller Well, at least here, that's what people are interessted in. And it isn't about just a few, it's about whole industries with millions of employees:

              • 5 day work week (1959)
              • Paid vacation time consessions (1962)
              • 40 hr work week (1965–67)
              • Paid sick leave (1970)
              • 35 hr work week (attempts not yet successful 1984)
              • 34 hr work week in metal industry (1995)

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Metall

              Green chart here is salary increase since 1993: http://oeffentlicher-dienst.info/vergleich/entwicklung1/

              And that's all what a lot of people care about.

              Edit: This doesn't reflect my personal opinion!

              How many of those things exist without the union or how different are they?

              In the US, at least, the effects of a union doing something good for workers is that the jobs vanish and the workers have to go elsewhere to get any work. When they do bad things for workers they gain control over whole regions and leave people without employment options and no means of earning additional money.

              I've lived in Flint, MI... a city totally destroyed by the unions that did "good" things for the workers... until all of the workers were fired and the company left.

              The sad thing is, all those union workers see is what they think is a higher pay, more benefits, when in reality, they killing the company.

              Frankly, I don't know how Ford still has any factories in the US at all.

              Most of the big 3 don't have any supply side things running in the states anymore, the little they do have is all just putting parts together (it's cheaper to ship them in pieces than complete vehicles.) What little is still around are all 3rd party suppliers.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                @travisdh1 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                @Dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                @scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                @thwr said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                @scottalanmiller Well, at least here, that's what people are interessted in. And it isn't about just a few, it's about whole industries with millions of employees:

                • 5 day work week (1959)
                • Paid vacation time consessions (1962)
                • 40 hr work week (1965–67)
                • Paid sick leave (1970)
                • 35 hr work week (attempts not yet successful 1984)
                • 34 hr work week in metal industry (1995)

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Metall

                Green chart here is salary increase since 1993: http://oeffentlicher-dienst.info/vergleich/entwicklung1/

                And that's all what a lot of people care about.

                Edit: This doesn't reflect my personal opinion!

                How many of those things exist without the union or how different are they?

                In the US, at least, the effects of a union doing something good for workers is that the jobs vanish and the workers have to go elsewhere to get any work. When they do bad things for workers they gain control over whole regions and leave people without employment options and no means of earning additional money.

                I've lived in Flint, MI... a city totally destroyed by the unions that did "good" things for the workers... until all of the workers were fired and the company left.

                The sad thing is, all those union workers see is what they think is a higher pay, more benefits, when in reality, they killing the company.

                Frankly, I don't know how Ford still has any factories in the US at all.

                Most of the big 3 don't have any supply side things running in the states anymore, the little they do have is all just putting parts together (it's cheaper to ship them in pieces than complete vehicles.) What little is still around are all 3rd party suppliers.

                The big two... the third of the big three is Italian now, not American. The US only has two large car makers plus Tesla.

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                  @travisdh1 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                  @Dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                  @thwr said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                  @scottalanmiller Well, at least here, that's what people are interessted in. And it isn't about just a few, it's about whole industries with millions of employees:

                  • 5 day work week (1959)
                  • Paid vacation time consessions (1962)
                  • 40 hr work week (1965–67)
                  • Paid sick leave (1970)
                  • 35 hr work week (attempts not yet successful 1984)
                  • 34 hr work week in metal industry (1995)

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Metall

                  Green chart here is salary increase since 1993: http://oeffentlicher-dienst.info/vergleich/entwicklung1/

                  And that's all what a lot of people care about.

                  Edit: This doesn't reflect my personal opinion!

                  How many of those things exist without the union or how different are they?

                  In the US, at least, the effects of a union doing something good for workers is that the jobs vanish and the workers have to go elsewhere to get any work. When they do bad things for workers they gain control over whole regions and leave people without employment options and no means of earning additional money.

                  I've lived in Flint, MI... a city totally destroyed by the unions that did "good" things for the workers... until all of the workers were fired and the company left.

                  The sad thing is, all those union workers see is what they think is a higher pay, more benefits, when in reality, they killing the company.

                  Frankly, I don't know how Ford still has any factories in the US at all.

                  Most of the big 3 don't have any supply side things running in the states anymore, the little they do have is all just putting parts together (it's cheaper to ship them in pieces than complete vehicles.) What little is still around are all 3rd party suppliers.

                  The big two... the third of the big three is Italian now, not American. The US only has two large car makers plus Tesla.

                  Apparently I buried that memory very deep.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
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                    Does Tesla count as a big car manufacturer?

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 They will be soon. If they can figure out their supply issues.

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                      • hobbit666H
                        hobbit666
                        last edited by

                        why's my "unread" icon not showing red with a number? Notifications are?

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @hobbit666
                          last edited by

                          @hobbit666 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                          why's my "unread" icon not showing red with a number? Notifications are?

                          I was just going to post that.

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                          • Minion QueenM
                            Minion Queen Banned
                            last edited by

                            I just noticed that too!

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              Mine doesn't show that.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @hobbit666
                                last edited by

                                @hobbit666 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                why's my "unread" icon not showing red with a number? Notifications are?

                                Same issue here.

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                                • AmbarishrhA
                                  Ambarishrh
                                  last edited by

                                  Just checked Windows 10 feedback app, and latest post +MS reply! 🙂

                                  https://i.imgur.com/fFQS05m.png

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @Ambarishrh
                                    last edited by

                                    @Ambarishrh said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                    Just checked Windows 10 feedback app, and latest post +MS reply! 🙂

                                    https://i.imgur.com/fFQS05m.png

                                    Change: The only thing more universally hated by old people than a lack of handicap spots.

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22
                                      last edited by

                                      A bunch of people are being super shitty to me because it's my last week and they know they won't have to interact with me. It's sad because I treat people very well and bend over backwards for everyone but no one appreciates it here. It's sad. More of a reason for me to look forward to leaving though. Onwards and upwards

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
                                        last edited by

                                        @wirestyle22 You only ever realize how people are when they find out they don't have to deal with you any more.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller and @Minion-Queen My unread icon is now doing the same thing as reported this morning.

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                                          • scaleS
                                            scale @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                            @scottalanmiller and @Minion-Queen My unread icon is now doing the same thing as reported this morning.

                                            Same here on Chrome. I was wondering what was going on.

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