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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by

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      We have no SPF records setup on our domain at all...

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in Blocking Spoofed Inbound Email - Office365:

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        We have no SPF records setup on our domain at all...

        It is technically a TXT record. Make sure you look in the right place.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch
          last edited by

          Here is mine on CloudFlare. The obfuscated part is the IP of my colo where I have some minor things that send email directly sometimes.

          0_1465846636005_upload-9e4748cb-b133-4c4f-9aec-8d6f886c6cfd

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @JaredBusch said in Blocking Spoofed Inbound Email - Office365:

            Here is mine on CloudFlare. The obfuscated part is the IP of my colo where I have some minor things that send email directly sometimes.

            0_1465846636005_upload-9e4748cb-b133-4c4f-9aec-8d6f886c6cfd

            Thanks.

            To confirm this is solely setup on our website host for the TXT / SPF records. Not within the office365 admin portal. Correct?

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in Blocking Spoofed Inbound Email - Office365:

              @JaredBusch said in Blocking Spoofed Inbound Email - Office365:

              Here is mine on CloudFlare. The obfuscated part is the IP of my colo where I have some minor things that send email directly sometimes.

              0_1465846636005_upload-9e4748cb-b133-4c4f-9aec-8d6f886c6cfd

              Thanks.

              To confirm this is solely setup on our website host for the TXT / SPF records. Not within the office365 admin portal. Correct?

              So goddaddy.com or networksolutions.com, correct?

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in Blocking Spoofed Inbound Email - Office365:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Blocking Spoofed Inbound Email - Office365:

                  @JaredBusch said in Blocking Spoofed Inbound Email - Office365:

                  Here is mine on CloudFlare. The obfuscated part is the IP of my colo where I have some minor things that send email directly sometimes.

                  0_1465846636005_upload-9e4748cb-b133-4c4f-9aec-8d6f886c6cfd

                  Thanks.

                  To confirm this is solely setup on our website host for the TXT / SPF records. Not within the office365 admin portal. Correct?

                  So goddaddy.com or networksolutions.com, correct?

                  No. It has nothing to do with the webhost. It is a DNS record.

                  It will only be your webhost if that is also your DNS provider.

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                  • momurdaM
                    momurda
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                    Yes whoever is providing your dns to the outside world, youll neeed to make a txt record that has v=spf1 include:spf.protection.outlook.com -all
                    or something like that.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch said in Blocking Spoofed Inbound Email - Office365:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Blocking Spoofed Inbound Email - Office365:

                      .....

                      ..........
                      ........
                      ......
                      ....
                      ..
                      .

                      We have no SPF records setup on our domain at all...

                      It is technically a TXT record. Make sure you look in the right place.

                      It once was TXT, then it was it's own record and now it's back to being a TXT again.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
                        last edited by DustinB3403

                        OK I found our records,

                        We have 4 in place at moment, the top one being what it should.

                        The other three are just weird.

                        @None 7200 correct spf address from what we can find.
                        @None 7200 google-site-verification=9832459823-45=- (some crap)
                        @None 3600 928640235(some crap)
                        @None 3600 21489789274563(some crap)

                        We're checking with the MSP, see if they set these other 3 up for some reason, or if they know what they are.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @DustinB3403 said in Blocking Spoofed Inbound Email - Office365:

                          OK I found our records,

                          We have 4 in place at moment, the top one being what it should.

                          The other three are just weird.

                          @None 7200 google-site-verification=9832459823-45=- (some crap)
                          @None 3600 928640235(some crap)
                          @None 3600 21489789274563(some crap)

                          We're checking with the MSP, see if they set these other 3 up for some reason, or if they know what they are.

                          Those are not for SPF usage. Those are usually added for domain verificaiton purposes for services.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said in Blocking Spoofed Inbound Email - Office365:

                            @JaredBusch said in Blocking Spoofed Inbound Email - Office365:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Blocking Spoofed Inbound Email - Office365:

                            .....

                            ..........
                            ........
                            ......
                            ....
                            ..
                            .

                            We have no SPF records setup on our domain at all...

                            It is technically a TXT record. Make sure you look in the right place.

                            It once was TXT, then it was it's own record and now it's back to being a TXT again.

                            It was never anything but a TXT record officially. The native SPF record was proposed but never ratified into a standard.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              So you think the other 3 records are for something, but lord knows what?

                              And the one correct record that we have verified should be doing what it needs?

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @DustinB3403 said in Blocking Spoofed Inbound Email - Office365:

                                So you think the other 3 records are for something, but lord knows what?

                                And the one correct record that we have verified should be doing what it needs?

                                That first one is obviously for google to verify the site. Likely because your website setup google analytics.

                                Others are similar.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  Any reason not to post the real DNS record? It's completely public on the interwebs.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender because I don't actually have them when I said "I" I meant my boss was able to locate them, he paraphrased the records to me.

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                                    • bbigfordB
                                      bbigford
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                                      I went way more basic...

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                                      I found out immediately that a sales site (hosted externally) uses a spoofed email address to work. That stopped working and I just put in an explicit rule for that outside source.

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                                      • momurdaM
                                        momurda
                                        last edited by

                                        https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn789058(v=exchg.150).aspx

                                        If one of those txt records doesnt say
                                        v=spf1 include:spf.protection.outlook.com -all
                                        It isnt correct for o365.
                                        Yours may have some other include:external static ip address of mail server if you have local servers that send email out(spiceworks, backup appliance, etc)

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @bbigford
                                          last edited by JaredBusch

                                          @BBigford said in Blocking Spoofed Inbound Email - Office365:

                                          I went way more basic...

                                          I found out immediately that a sales site (hosted externally) uses a spoofed email address to work. That stopped working and I just put in an explicit rule for that outside source.

                                          That will stop internal users form seeing spoofed email, but that has nothing to do with the ability for spoofed email to be sent in your name though.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver
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                                            You could also easily do an nslookup to confirm these records. Just make sure you set the type to txt, on Windows at least.

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