If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch
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@brianlittlejohn said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
I'm never going to own an autonomous car, I think where it is headed will remove the need of ownership of a car, you pay a ride share company that has a fleet of them to pick you up and drop you off.
This I could see occurring for public transit, or large business complexes.
But as a general concept I want my own space, and having to share a ride with 3 or more other people who I work with (or only know from the car share) would drive me insane.
I'd probably end up stabbing someone.
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@brianlittlejohn said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
I'm never going to own an autonomous car, I think where it is headed will remove the need of ownership of a car, you pay a ride share company that has a fleet of them to pick you up and drop you off.
This idea works great when you're in a huge city, and more in the center of that city than when in a smaller one or an outlier where those "cabs" won't be as available, that time delay might be completely undesirable to many, I know it would be to me.
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@Dashrender said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
Now one set of speculation is that uber will take over the world. People won't own cars anymore, now you'll just call for a ride to xyz place.
How could Uber or any ride share company take over if car ownership goes away? you are contradicting yourself.
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@JaredBusch said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
@Dashrender said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
Now one set of speculation is that uber will take over the world. People won't own cars anymore, now you'll just call for a ride to xyz place.
How could Uber or any ride share company take over if car ownership goes away? you are contradicting yourself.
He's saying personal car ownership, not a business ownership of cars.
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I was using uber as an example, but if you prefer uncle sam, of the state, that's fine, please substitute whichever entity into that sentence you like and then re read it.
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Better safe than enslaved
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@MattSpeller said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
Better safe than enslaved
Wouldn't losing the ability to travel around as you please be similar to enslavement? If you wanted to up and drive to <insert location> this instant, but couldn't because the Government run transportation system didn't make that route.
Isn't that essentially slavery to your location / job?
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@DustinB3403 said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
@MattSpeller said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
Better safe than enslaved
Wouldn't losing the ability to travel around as you please be similar to enslavement? If you wanted to up and drive to <insert location> this instant, but couldn't because the Government run transportation system didn't make that route.
Isn't that essentially slavery to your location / job?
No
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@DustinB3403 said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
@MattSpeller said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
Better safe than enslaved
Wouldn't losing the ability to travel around as you please be similar to enslavement? If you wanted to up and drive to <insert location> this instant, but couldn't because the Government run transportation system didn't make that route.
Isn't that essentially slavery to your location / job?
no.
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Why do you both disagree with me?
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@DustinB3403 said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
Why do you both disagree with me?
This is slavery:
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@DustinB3403 said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
Why do you both disagree with me?
Enslavement is the act of making someone a slave. A slave is a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them. Being tied to a specific location is not enslavement or even similar to it. It's having less options.
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@wirestyle22 said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
@DustinB3403 said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
Why do you both disagree with me?
Enslavement is the act of making someone a slave. A slave is a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them. Being tied to a specific location is not enslavement or even similar to it. It's having less options.
A slave has 2 choices, do as you're told, or be beaten / killed. I don't really see the difference (sorry)
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Being stuck in one location to me is comparable to false imprisonment. Which is equatable to slavery in that you aren't free to do what you want.
So to say "if you can't travel, that's just less options" is equatable to slavery in that you aren't able to do what you want.
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@DustinB3403 said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
Being stuck in one location to me is comparable to false imprisonment. Which is equatable to slavery in that you aren't free to do what you want.
So to say "if you can't travel, that's just less options" is equatable to slavery in that you aren't able to do what you want.
It just sounds to be like you think the government is encroaching on our liberty (assuming you are American). There is an argument for that for sure.
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@wirestyle22 said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
@DustinB3403 said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
Being stuck in one location to me is comparable to false imprisonment. Which is equatable to slavery in that you aren't free to do what you want.
So to say "if you can't travel, that's just less options" is equatable to slavery in that you aren't able to do what you want.
It just sounds to be like you think the government is encroaching on our liberty (assuming you are American). There is an argument for that.
The american government is assuredly trying to take more and more from me. (I am american) but the topic is government / company owned mass automated transportation.
If personal ownership isn't an option the only result is less choice. Which would lead to less freedom to do what you want, when you want.
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@DustinB3403 said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
Being stuck in one location to me is comparable to false imprisonment. Which is equatable to slavery in that you aren't free to do what you want.
So to say "if you can't travel, that's just less options" is equatable to slavery in that you aren't able to do what you want.
I really mean no offence but you're way way... way off the mark.
Being unable to travel is in no way, shape or form similar to being owned.
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@DustinB3403 said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
Being stuck in one location to me is comparable to false imprisonment. Which is equatable to slavery in that you aren't free to do what you want.
So to say "if you can't travel, that's just less options" is equatable to slavery in that you aren't able to do what you want.
IMO we aren't free to do what we want. We have laws. To you they may be just but to another person they may not be. Are they a slave? Are you a slave? I don't think the argument goes anywhere
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@DustinB3403 said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
@wirestyle22 said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
@DustinB3403 said in If you thought Skynet was just a story why is google building an AI kill switch:
Being stuck in one location to me is comparable to false imprisonment. Which is equatable to slavery in that you aren't free to do what you want.
So to say "if you can't travel, that's just less options" is equatable to slavery in that you aren't able to do what you want.
It just sounds to be like you think the government is encroaching on our liberty (assuming you are American). There is an argument for that.
The american government is assuredly trying to take more and more from me. (I am american) but the topic is government / company owned mass automated transportation.
If personal ownership isn't an option the only result is less choice. Which would lead to less freedom to do what you want, when you want.
I think there is a grey area where the lack of choice could potentially be considered similar to slavery but it would have to be very very restricted way above what is being described.
