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    • alexntgA
      alexntg @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      No Exchange in the environment. DNS or AD might do it.

      But the question was.... How would we get access if this happens?

      Wait it out. Otherwise, remotely manage it from another machine and adjust its services as needed. There's also LogMeIn, which generates a viewable session long before RDP starts up.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Was already getting LMI on there. But no work arounds on Azure as far as I can tell. If this happens the box is just " lost".

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        • alexntgA
          alexntg @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          Was already getting LMI on there. But no work arounds on Azure as far as I can tell. If this happens the box is just " lost".

          Could you please rephrase that? Were you able to connect to LogMeIn, but couldn't log into the server, or you weren't able to connect via LogMeIn?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @alexntg
            last edited by

            @alexntg said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            Was already getting LMI on there. But no work arounds on Azure as far as I can tell. If this happens the box is just " lost".

            Could you please rephrase that? Were you able to connect to LogMeIn, but couldn't log into the server, or you weren't able to connect via LogMeIn?

            The question is about just azure. If you have a Windows server on Azure and ANY tool you are using loses access.... What is the fallback?

            On Rackspace it is.... Go to console. On Azure it appears to be "rebuild and start over". Is that true?

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            • ?
              A Former User
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              no idea. i dont play in azure

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                I've used Rackspace a ton and some of AWS and Softlayer. Had to round it out.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  They each have their nice features. For the SMB, though, Rackspace is the clear winner. Azure and AWS have little accommodations for SMB style use and assume a lot of things that don't turn out to be true in the SMB. They are clouds to be clouds. Rackspace is a cloud with a strong VPS functionality.

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                  • alexntgA
                    alexntg @A Former User
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                    @Hubtech said:

                    no idea. i dont play in azure

                    Likewise. I'm an AWS person. At least in AWS, you can restore back to the last snapshot of the machine you took (assuming you took one). If you do something like give it a bad IP address or it bluescreens, your options are to reboot, restore from backup, or rebuild from scratch.

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                    • alexntgA
                      alexntg @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @alexntg said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Was already getting LMI on there. But no work arounds on Azure as far as I can tell. If this happens the box is just " lost".

                      Could you please rephrase that? Were you able to connect to LogMeIn, but couldn't log into the server, or you weren't able to connect via LogMeIn?

                      The question is about just azure. If you have a Windows server on Azure and ANY tool you are using loses access.... What is the fallback?

                      Have multiple tools in place. If you're using RDP and that fails, Try connecting via LogMeIn, or vice versa. There's also remote management from another box on the same network. If all 3 fail, there's something bad happening with the machine.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @alexntg
                        last edited by

                        @alexntg said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @alexntg said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Was already getting LMI on there. But no work arounds on Azure as far as I can tell. If this happens the box is just " lost".

                        Could you please rephrase that? Were you able to connect to LogMeIn, but couldn't log into the server, or you weren't able to connect via LogMeIn?

                        The question is about just azure. If you have a Windows server on Azure and ANY tool you are using loses access.... What is the fallback?

                        Have multiple tools in place. If you're using RDP and that fails, Try connecting via LogMeIn, or vice versa. There's also remote management from another box on the same network. If all 3 fail, there's something bad happening with the machine.

                        In this case, LMI wasn't installed yet. And access from other machines on the same network were what was failing.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Can't just revert back a DC.

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                          • alexntgA
                            alexntg @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Can't just revert back a DC.

                            In that case, it'd be a simple matter of tossing the old DC and spinning up a new one. More of an annoyance than anything else.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @alexntg
                              last edited by

                              @alexntg said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Can't just revert back a DC.

                              In that case, it'd be a simple matter of tossing the old DC and spinning up a new one. More of an annoyance than anything else.

                              Yes. Mostly stateless. Would be scary if you put all DCs on azure though. Or any live/live system like this where an environmental change might lock out the entire environment.

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                              • ?
                                A Former User
                                last edited by

                                So did this happen to you? or was this a "what if" situation?

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                                • alexntgA
                                  alexntg @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @alexntg said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  Can't just revert back a DC.

                                  In that case, it'd be a simple matter of tossing the old DC and spinning up a new one. More of an annoyance than anything else.

                                  Yes. Mostly stateless. Would be scary if you put all DCs on azure though. Or any live/live system like this where an environmental change might lock out the entire environment.

                                  I have my entire environment on AWS, spread across two geographic regions with a site-to-site VPN. Upping it a level would be putting one part on AWS and the other on Azure, with a site-to-site VPN between the two.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @A Former User
                                    last edited by

                                    @Hubtech said:

                                    So did this happen to you? or was this a "what if" situation?

                                    Really happened but while testing. So no bad outcome. So it's a "what if" now.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @alexntg
                                      last edited by

                                      @alexntg said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @alexntg said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      Can't just revert back a DC.

                                      In that case, it'd be a simple matter of tossing the old DC and spinning up a new one. More of an annoyance than anything else.

                                      Yes. Mostly stateless. Would be scary if you put all DCs on azure though. Or any live/live system like this where an environmental change might lock out the entire environment.

                                      I have my entire environment on AWS, spread across two geographic regions with a site-to-site VPN. Upping it a level would be putting one part on AWS and the other on Azure, with a site-to-site VPN between the two.

                                      Yes. Having one node in Rackspace would have protected against this.

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