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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      Unless I completely misunderstood something in the beginning, the OP indicated that he had roseradiology.com on his internal DNS as well. So working from that, I gave the above response.

      Now that we see that he does not have that already in place, I would agree, avoid it if at all possible - but you have to make sure things work first.

      This means making sure his firewall/router supports hairpin routing.

      It works as follows:
      an internal client makes a request for the IP to OC.roseradiology.com, which is responded to from the internet DNS server with an IP on his firewall (assuming the OP is using NATing).
      The client then tries to connect to that IP, which is on the outside of his firewall.
      The firewall gets a packet and realizes that it has a rule that says this packet needs to go back inside the network to the designated internal IP (cisco PIX firewalls can NOT do this). Assuming this works - the traffic is sent back inside the network
      and all is fine.

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      • alex.olynykA
        alex.olynyk @Alex Sage
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        removed domain

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        • alex.olynykA
          alex.olynyk @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender things do work if I use 2 different URL's

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @alex.olynyk
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            @alex.olynyk said in Certbot:

            @Dashrender things do work if I use 2 different URL's

            How does file sharing work that way?

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            • alex.olynykA
              alex.olynyk
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              dont know. havent put into production yet

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @alex.olynyk
                last edited by

                @alex.olynyk said in Certbot:

                dont know. havent put into production yet

                LOL, so how do you know that things will work 😉 The links that are generated by the system will only work to one or the other group (internal or external) is the expectation.

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                • alex.olynykA
                  alex.olynyk
                  last edited by

                  honestly dont know, this has been placed in my lap to get working

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    OK @alex-olynyk did add roseradiology.com, but not in the correct place. As such, it never worked as desired.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      @alex-olynyk
                      now that you've removed that, what do you get when you ping owncloud.roseradiology.com?

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                      • alex.olynykA
                        alex.olynyk @Dashrender
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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          is that IP address on your firewall?

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                          • alex.olynykA
                            alex.olynyk @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender yes, it works from the outside. Our FW is managed by Windstream so unsure what you are asking

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @alex.olynyk
                              last edited by

                              @alex.olynyk said in Certbot:

                              @Dashrender yes, it works from the outside. Our FW is managed by Windstream so unsure what you are asking

                              You're firewall is manged by Windstream? huh - didn't know they did that.

                              You need to call them and ask them to turn on hairpin routing in the firewall/router/cablemodem/router, whatever it is.

                              If they tell you that they can't, then you will have to use Split Horizon DNS to solve this problem.

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                              • alex.olynykA
                                alex.olynyk @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender which means create a DNS zone called roseradiology.com and add records for my public servers?

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @alex.olynyk
                                  last edited by

                                  @alex.olynyk said in Certbot:

                                  @Dashrender which means create a DNS zone called roseradiology.com

                                  yes

                                  and add records for my public servers?

                                  no

                                  You'll add a brand new zone to your DNS servers (make it AD integrated) and then add in all the records that exist in the internet based one, but you'll change the IP from external live IPs to the IPs that are used by those services inside your network.

                                  So for ownCloud you'll do:

                                  A record Owncloud : 192.168.128.10

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                                  • alex.olynykA
                                    alex.olynyk @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender our mail server is hosted POP so that's accessed via mail.roseradiology.com
                                    no internal IP address for that

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @alex.olynyk
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                                      @alex.olynyk said in Certbot:

                                      @Dashrender our mail server is hosted POP so that's accessed via mail.roseradiology.com
                                      no internal IP address for that

                                      Then for that one you will still use the external IP, but you WILL have to put in a record in your local DNS.

                                      I have lost track of how many times you have been told this is the correct answer.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @Alex Sage
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                                        @aaronstuder said in Certbot:

                                        @StrongBad The only thing I can think of is speed? Maybe it's a bit faster? However many routers have loopback NAT, so no difference there.

                                        The term you are looking for is HAIRPIN NAT.

                                        Personal opinion incoming: You NEVER want to rely on HAIRPIN NAT, ever.

                                        For most companies, DNS is not something that changes very often. It is much easier to handle entering DNS information both into both the internal and external DNS servers.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @JaredBusch said in Certbot:

                                          Personal opinion incoming: You NEVER want to rely on HAIRPIN NAT, ever.

                                          For most companies, DNS is not something that changes very often. It is much easier to handle entering DNS information both into both the internal and external DNS servers.

                                          I tend to agree with JB on this one.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                                            @JaredBusch said in Certbot:

                                            @alex.olynyk said in Certbot:

                                            @Dashrender our mail server is hosted POP so that's accessed via mail.roseradiology.com
                                            no internal IP address for that

                                            Then for that one you will still use the external IP, but you WILL have to put in a record in your local DNS.

                                            I have lost track of how many times you have been told this is the correct answer.

                                            Hey, listen to JB on this one you should.

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