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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by DustinB3403

      to setup an iSCSI device to act as storage for a XenServer installation that would only be used to backup my VM's?

      Even though the iSCSI target is

      • out of warranty
      • in a failed state
      • has 4 disks only (for 4TB RAID5 Winchester - one drive failed)
      • Would require me to setup another XenServer installation
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      • MattSpellerM
        MattSpeller
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        If goal is "can I learn something doing this" - yes

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @MattSpeller
          last edited by

          @MattSpeller said in Does it make sense....:

          If goal is "can I learn something doing this" - yes

          That is not the goal.

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          • MattSpellerM
            MattSpeller @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said in Does it make sense....:

            @MattSpeller said in Does it make sense....:

            If goal is "can I learn something doing this" - yes

            That is not the goal.

            Guess you've got my $0.02 then lol

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @MattSpeller
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              @MattSpeller thank you.

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              • Deleted74295D
                Deleted74295 Banned
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                Why do you want to do it 🙂 - What is the goal?

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @Deleted74295
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                  @Breffni-Potter said in Does it make sense....:

                  Why do you want to do it 🙂 - What is the goal?

                  As a backup medium for production VMs

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                  • Deleted74295D
                    Deleted74295 Banned
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                    @DustinB3403 said in Does it make sense....:

                    @Breffni-Potter said in Does it make sense....:

                    Why do you want to do it 🙂 - What is the goal?

                    As a backup medium for production VMs

                    If you don't care about the backups and don't care if you cannot restore, go for it.

                    If you want it as a working backup medium, alas try something else.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      I don't see the point unless you are planning on replacing the failed drive.
                      Then it would be like any other NAS for backup.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @Deleted74295
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                        @Breffni-Potter said in Does it make sense....:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Does it make sense....:

                        @Breffni-Potter said in Does it make sense....:

                        Why do you want to do it 🙂 - What is the goal?

                        As a backup medium for production VMs

                        If you don't care about the backups and don't care if you cannot restore, go for it.

                        If you want it as a working backup medium, alas try something else.

                        And that was my hesitation as well... if anything in the world happens to that iSCSI target...

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender There are no NAS functions at all. Only iSCSI capabilities on this unit.

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                          • Deleted74295D
                            Deleted74295 Banned @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said

                            And that was my hesitation as well... if anything in the world happens to that iSCSI target...

                            Yep.

                            Now, how much data do you need to backup? And how long can you wait to restore the data?

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @Deleted74295
                              last edited by

                              @Breffni-Potter said in Does it make sense....:

                              @DustinB3403 said

                              And that was my hesitation as well... if anything in the world happens to that iSCSI target...

                              Yep.

                              Now, how much data do you need to backup? And how long can you wait to restore the data?

                              Currently I'm backing up ~1TB of VM's, restoring would be "as soon as possible" in any event from which I need to restore.

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                              • Deleted74295D
                                Deleted74295 Banned
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                                What's the budget to do this?

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said in Does it make sense....:

                                  @Dashrender There are no NAS functions at all. Only iSCSI capabilities on this unit.

                                  My bad - you're right, this is SAN functionality, not NAS, but in this case, does it matter? it's just a dumping ground, though a bit more complex - Yeah it's probably not worth using.

                                  I have the same issue with my ancient Drobo

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @Deleted74295
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                                    @Breffni-Potter said in Does it make sense....:

                                    What's the budget to do this?

                                    "Using existing in office hours, and no additional hardware"

                                    Meaning I can't replace the failed drive or purchase 4 higher capacity drives.

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                                    • Deleted74295D
                                      Deleted74295 Banned @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said in Does it make sense....:

                                      @Breffni-Potter said in Does it make sense....:

                                      What's the budget to do this?

                                      "Using existing in office hours, and no additional hardware"

                                      Meaning I can't replace the failed drive or purchase 4 higher capacity drives.

                                      Even if the drive is replaced or the capacity is increased, what if the controller fails on the unit? or the PSU?

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
                                        last edited by DustinB3403

                                        @Breffni-Potter I know this is rhetorical.

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                                          TAHIN
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                                          I would say it's not possible. If they insist, I'd keep the email of them signing off on your concerns. Then when restoring a failed VM takes the SAN over the brink and causes your restore to also fail, you'll have something to show them.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
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                                            So everyone is in agreement with me.

                                            it's not worth using it, and it's scrap metal at this point.

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