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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
      last edited by wirestyle22

      @DustinB3403 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

      @wirestyle22 if you're using the term better in the conversation it's a scary meaning, because she it totally thinking "well it could be worse, maybe they don't like you and let you go in a short span"

      Just explain what is offered from the possible new position versus what you have today and she'll say go for it. And support you for that.

      I have no issue with her at all. I'm just explaining as questions and statements are being made.

      I could write HUGE posts about it but I don't think the majority of you guys would be interested. The short version is I am going insane at my current job. I'm studying every night and applying every day. Everywhere. Every day is like nails on a chalkboard right now for me. I am underpaid, under-appreciated and overworked. I have done my job very well up until this point well beyond even the most unrealistic expectations. My fiance just got a new job where she is making considerably more than me, which is absolutely fantastic for her and for us. After going over the numbers of having a child and providing for said child I feel the need to make considerably more money.

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

        • Never go after more money from your current job than they are going to pay you through the regular channels...

        But this also doesn't mean be afraid to ask for raises. Not every year, but if you have gone 3 or 4 years without even a cost of living raise, then it's time to ask about some sort of raise... but at the same time, you should never give an ultimatum to your employer. Don't tell them you will quit if they don't give you a raise... Just go find another job and put in your two weeks notice after you have a new job secured.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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          @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

          After going over the numbers of having a child and providing for said child I feel the need to make considerably more money.

          But she does not? Child rearing is a HUGE reason why someone, especially the man, has to have enough of an income to support everyone (in case of emergency) in the US where women do not get a year of pay like in the rest of the world when having a baby. It's fine for women to make more than men, of course, but for safety around having kids you want the man to at least earn enough to cover the bases when necessary.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @dafyre
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            @dafyre said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

            @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

            • Never go after more money from your current job than they are going to pay you through the regular channels...

            But this also doesn't mean be afraid to ask for raises. Not every year, but if you have gone 3 or 4 years without even a cost of living raise, then it's time to ask about some sort of raise..

            Right, but no healthy company makes you ASK for a raise. There needs to be a process. If there isn't, you should have been looking for the next job from day one and no one should expect you to stay, ever.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @dafyre
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              @dafyre said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

              but at the same time, you should never give an ultimatum to your employer. Don't tell them you will quit if they don't give you a raise... Just go find another job and put in your two weeks notice after you have a new job secured.

              Absolutely. the moment that this has crossed your mind, it is time to leave.

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              • coliverC
                coliver
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                Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22 @coliver
                  last edited by wirestyle22

                  @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                  Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.

                  I can't leave my state. My fiance just got her career job with the state and is insanely happy. If I have to choose between her happiness and mine she's going to win. I'm never going to make her give up her own happiness. I will commute or do whatever I have to do to make as much money as possible. Maybe i'll drive an Uber in my spare time. Whatever.

                  Her happiness is more important to me than mine is.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
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                    @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                    @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                    Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.

                    I can't leave my state. My fiance just got her career job with the state and is insanely happy. If I have to choose between her happiness and mine she's going to win. I'm never going to make her give up her own happiness. I will commute or do whatever I have to do to make as much money as possible. Maybe i'll drive an Uber in my spare time. Whatever.

                    Her happiness is more important to me than mine is.

                    Sucker... 😜

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @wirestyle22
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                      @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                      @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                      Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.

                      I can't leave my state. My fiance just got her career job with the state and is insanely happy. If I have to choose between her happiness and mine she's going to win. I'm never going to make her give up her own happiness. I will commute or do whatever I have to do to make as much money as possible. Maybe i'll drive an Uber in my spare time. Whatever.

                      Her happiness is more important to me than mine is.

                      There we go, you two made the same decision my wife and I did. Her career comes before mine and that was a conscious decision that we made together

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @coliver
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                        @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                        @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                        Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.

                        I can't leave my state. My fiance just got her career job with the state and is insanely happy. If I have to choose between her happiness and mine she's going to win. I'm never going to make her give up her own happiness. I will commute or do whatever I have to do to make as much money as possible. Maybe i'll drive an Uber in my spare time. Whatever.

                        Her happiness is more important to me than mine is.

                        There we go, you two made the same decision my wife and I did. Her career comes before mine and that was a conscious decision that we made together

                        This is the core of my being. She will always be more important to me than I am to myself. Take money completely out of the equation.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @wirestyle22
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                          @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                          @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                          @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                          Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.

                          I can't leave my state. My fiance just got her career job with the state and is insanely happy. If I have to choose between her happiness and mine she's going to win. I'm never going to make her give up her own happiness. I will commute or do whatever I have to do to make as much money as possible. Maybe i'll drive an Uber in my spare time. Whatever.

                          Her happiness is more important to me than mine is.

                          There we go, you two made the same decision my wife and I did. Her career comes before mine and that was a conscious decision that we made together

                          This is the core of my being. She will always be more important to me than I am to myself. Take money completely out of the equation.

                          That's irrational though, if you could save the stress of money by making more money, wouldn't she be happier in the long term?

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22 @coliver
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                            @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                            @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                            @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                            Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.

                            I can't leave my state. My fiance just got her career job with the state and is insanely happy. If I have to choose between her happiness and mine she's going to win. I'm never going to make her give up her own happiness. I will commute or do whatever I have to do to make as much money as possible. Maybe i'll drive an Uber in my spare time. Whatever.

                            Her happiness is more important to me than mine is.

                            There we go, you two made the same decision my wife and I did. Her career comes before mine and that was a conscious decision that we made together

                            This is the core of my being. She will always be more important to me than I am to myself. Take money completely out of the equation.

                            That's irrational though, if you could save the stress of money by making more money, wouldn't she be happier in the long term?

                            She is fulfilled with the work she is doing and she also makes a lot of money. If I took that away and made lets say double what she makes. Then I feel extreme guilt and I am unhappy. She isnt as fulfilled so she is less happy. Does the removal of financial stress (which I can be let go at any point) validate that? IMO it doesn't.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
                              last edited by DustinB3403

                              @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                              This is the core of my being. She will always be more important to me than I am to myself. Take money completely out of the equation.

                              That is completely irrational.

                              Each person has to have a focus for themselves. It's a part of nature. You can't sustain yourself from a smile on her face, you have to each eat, drink and defecate.

                              That is a self focus, you have to be able to be happy as well, otherwise you will make everyone around you unhappy.

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                This is the core of my being. She will always be more important to me than I am to myself. Take money completely out of the equation.

                                That is completely irrational.

                                Each person has to have a focus for themselves. It's a part of nature. You can't sustain yourself from a smile on her face, you have to each eat, drink and defecate.

                                That is a self focus, you have to be able to be happy as well, otherwise you will make everyone around you unhappy.

                                It's a rarity to have to choose between your happiness and someone else's in my experience. When I am forced into a situation like that I am selfless. That's just who I am.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @coliver
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                                  @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                  Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.

                                  Unlike you, he is kind of in a major market (the market is major, he's kind of in it.)

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                    @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                    Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.

                                    Unlike you, he is kind of in a major market (the market is major, he's kind of in it.)

                                    Tri-state?

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @coliver
                                      last edited by

                                      @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                      @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                      Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.

                                      Unlike you, he is kind of in a major market (the market is major, he's kind of in it.)

                                      Tri-state?

                                      Yes

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @wirestyle22
                                        last edited by

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                        @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                        @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                        Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.

                                        Unlike you, he is kind of in a major market (the market is major, he's kind of in it.)

                                        Tri-state?

                                        Yes

                                        Sorry, you shouldn't need to move around too much. Plenty of huge opportunities in that area.

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22 @coliver
                                          last edited by wirestyle22

                                          @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                          @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                          @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                          Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.

                                          Unlike you, he is kind of in a major market (the market is major, he's kind of in it.)

                                          Tri-state?

                                          Yes

                                          Sorry, you shouldn't need to move around too much. Plenty of huge opportunities in that area.

                                          I've been told that but I honestly haven't seen a lot. Where should I be looking outside of the traditional websites (career builder, monster, linkedin, etc)? Maybe there is something I'm missing. I see DevOps positions everywhere but that isn't my skillset.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @wirestyle22
                                            last edited by

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                            @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                            @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                            @coliver said in Ransomware Management Career Fork:

                                            Where are you sending applications out to? Just locally? If that is the case you, like me, are going to have some serious issues finding a competitive job. In IT, and most jobs, you have to prepared to move around.

                                            Unlike you, he is kind of in a major market (the market is major, he's kind of in it.)

                                            Tri-state?

                                            Yes

                                            Sorry, you shouldn't need to move around too much. Plenty of huge opportunities in that area.

                                            I've been told that but I honestly haven't seen a lot. Where should I be looking outside of the traditional websites (career builder, monster, linkedin, etc)? Maybe there is something I'm missing. I see DevOps positions everywhere but that isn't my skillset.

                                            Networking. You won't find the positions you are looking for online.

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