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    • gjacobseG
      gjacobse
      last edited by

      In Windows XP and Vista, you could use Windows Movie Maker to pull and edit video from a Digital Video Camera.

      This isn't really available for Windows 10, while you can still download it, and it will still work, .. is there a better solution?

      I have it all set with Firewire, so the transfer isn't an issue. Just pulling it off.

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      • J
        Jason Banned
        last edited by Jason

        Movie maker never was anything much. Check on premiere pro and premiere elements. Avid now has made a free version of its media composer (very high end) but I haven't tried the free version.

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        • gjacobseG
          gjacobse @Jason
          last edited by

          @Jason said:

          Movie maker never was anything much. Check on premiere pro and premiere elements. Avid now has made a free version of its media composer (very high end) but I haven't tried the free version.

          Seems like Avid media Composter | First won't be available for a while still.

          0_1460935973926_2016-04-17 19_31_47-Media Composer _ First FAQ.png

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            I just posted a list of free and open source Movie Maker replacements the other day, there should be some things on that list worth checking out.

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            • Deleted74295D
              Deleted74295 Banned
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              I don't think new apps that appear now are going to support Firewire from a camera, everything is USB/SD card based these days.

              I'm guessing you are using a DV tape based camera?

              You could look into a video interface card for your PC, then connect the camera to that interface so you can record the output of the camera into the PC as a digital file, then ingest into your editor of choice.

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              • J
                Jason Banned
                last edited by

                FireWire is still supported by all the professional NLEs. Dobut anything free will the codecs cost

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                • Deleted74295D
                  Deleted74295 Banned @Jason
                  last edited by

                  @Jason said:

                  FireWire is still supported by all the professional NLEs.

                  I doubt anyone wants to drop that much money to fix the problem though.

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                  • gjacobseG
                    gjacobse @Deleted74295
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                    @Breffni-Potter said in Windows 10 Replacement for Movie Maker:

                    I don't think new apps that appear now are going to support Firewire from a camera, everything is USB/SD card based these days.

                    I'm guessing you are using a DV tape based camera?

                    You could look into a video interface card for your PC, then connect the camera to that interface so you can record the output of the camera into the PC as a digital file, then ingest into your editor of choice.

                    Yes, It's a Sony Mini DV - DCR-TRV19 HandiCam...It's a few years old.... like around 12 years.. I have the PCI-Express card, cable and all for Firewire,.. just need the application to pull the video from it.

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                    • gjacobseG
                      gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Replacement for Movie Maker:

                      I just posted a list of free and open source Movie Maker replacements the other day, there should be some things on that list worth checking out.

                      Been searching.. Not pulling it up...

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @gjacobse
                        last edited by

                        @gjacobse said in Windows 10 Replacement for Movie Maker:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Replacement for Movie Maker:

                        I just posted a list of free and open source Movie Maker replacements the other day, there should be some things on that list worth checking out.

                        Been searching.. Not pulling it up...

                        http://mangolassi.it/topic/8845/datamation-open-source-av-application-roundup

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                        • gjacobseG
                          gjacobse @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Replacement for Movie Maker:

                          @gjacobse said in Windows 10 Replacement for Movie Maker:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Replacement for Movie Maker:

                          I just posted a list of free and open source Movie Maker replacements the other day, there should be some things on that list worth checking out.

                          Been searching.. Not pulling it up...

                          http://mangolassi.it/topic/8845/datamation-open-source-av-application-roundup

                          Aaand that would be why. I was searching under SAM,.. mot MLNews...

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                          • gjacobseG
                            gjacobse @gjacobse
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                            @gjacobse said in Windows 10 Replacement for Movie Maker:

                            I have it all set with Firewire, so the transfer isn't an issue. Just pulling it off.

                            Some how I am starting to think that the translation / explanation of this isn't correct....

                            Okay. I have the Camera, cable, Firewire PCIExpress card. I need to PULL the video from the camera to the computer so that I can work with it.

                            Working with it isn't so much of the issue. But I need to move it from the Camera <to> the computer. MS Windows Movie Maker had the ability to import / copy / whatever right from the camera.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @gjacobse
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                              @gjacobse said in Windows 10 Replacement for Movie Maker:

                              @gjacobse said in Windows 10 Replacement for Movie Maker:

                              I have it all set with Firewire, so the transfer isn't an issue. Just pulling it off.

                              Some how I am starting to think that the translation / explanation of this isn't correct....

                              Okay. I have the Camera, cable, Firewire PCIExpress card. I need to PULL the video from the camera to the computer so that I can work with it.

                              Working with it isn't so much of the issue. But I need to move it from the Camera <to> the computer. MS Windows Movie Maker had the ability to import / copy / whatever right from the camera.

                              How is it recorded? On most consumer/pro-sumer cameras the storage parition is mounted as a windows drive when you plug in the camera. Can't you pull the files directly off the storage?

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                              • gjacobseG
                                gjacobse @coliver
                                last edited by

                                @coliver said in Windows 10 Replacement for Movie Maker:

                                @gjacobse said in Windows 10 Replacement for Movie Maker:

                                @gjacobse said in Windows 10 Replacement for Movie Maker:

                                I have it all set with Firewire, so the transfer isn't an issue. Just pulling it off.

                                Some how I am starting to think that the translation / explanation of this isn't correct....

                                Okay. I have the Camera, cable, Firewire PCIExpress card. I need to PULL the video from the camera to the computer so that I can work with it.

                                Working with it isn't so much of the issue. But I need to move it from the Camera <to> the computer. MS Windows Movie Maker had the ability to import / copy / whatever right from the camera.

                                How is it recorded? On most consumer/pro-sumer cameras the storage parition is mounted as a windows drive when you plug in the camera. Can't you pull the files directly off the storage?

                                It is Tape.. That is one thing that MS WMM had going for it,.. while not the best solution, it could 'control' the camera and capture to file, either manually, but time or by file size.

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                                • gjacobseG
                                  gjacobse
                                  last edited by gjacobse

                                  Went and poked around on Sony's site a bit.

                                  What I have called Firewire, they call i.Link.

                                  https://docs.sony.com/release/hyperlinks/POT_iLinkPort1.JPG

                                  https://us.en.kb.sony.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/40775/c/65,66/

                                  https://us.en.kb.sony.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/37892/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xNDYxMDA1NjA3L3NpZC9laFBhS2xPbQ%3D%3D
                                  From there I ended up with something about Play Memories -...
                                  http://support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/www/disoft/int/download/playmemories-home/win/en/index.html

                                  So will try that and see.

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                                  • brianlittlejohnB
                                    brianlittlejohn @gjacobse
                                    last edited by brianlittlejohn

                                    @gjacobse said in Windows 10 Replacement for Movie Maker:

                                    What I have called Firewire, they call i.Link.

                                    You can thank Apple for that... Apple trademarked "FireWire" so everyone else had to come up with their own name for IEEE1394

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
                                      last edited by

                                      @brianlittlejohn said in Windows 10 Replacement for Movie Maker:

                                      @gjacobse said in Windows 10 Replacement for Movie Maker:

                                      What I have called Firewire, they call i.Link.

                                      You can thank Apple for that... Apple trademarked "FireWire" so everyone else had to come up with their own name for IEEE1394

                                      Well, you can thank people using Apple's term for IEEE1394. The real name is just IEEE1394. Calling it FireWire or i.Link is the issue. Just call it by its real name and it gets much clearer 🙂

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                                      • brianlittlejohnB
                                        brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Replacement for Movie Maker:

                                        @brianlittlejohn said in Windows 10 Replacement for Movie Maker:

                                        @gjacobse said in Windows 10 Replacement for Movie Maker:

                                        What I have called Firewire, they call i.Link.

                                        You can thank Apple for that... Apple trademarked "FireWire" so everyone else had to come up with their own name for IEEE1394

                                        Well, you can thank people using Apple's term for IEEE1394. The real name is just IEEE1394. Calling it FireWire or i.Link is the issue. Just call it by its real name and it gets much clearer 🙂

                                        True!

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