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    • NetworkNerdN
      NetworkNerd @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @iroal said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      The problem is that you have lost the license you mean? Windows 2003 can just be virtualized, I believe. No special license needed.

      It's an OEM license, so it cannot be used for the virtualization, isn't it?

      Oh, that's a different issue. YOu just need to get new licensing in that case.

      I agree, but I will say we had to virtualize an XP box last year, and when one my techs called MS about how to license the VM with the key we had (since he had trouble applying it to activate over the internet and via phone), they told him they did not care because XP is no longer supported. I wonder if they would say the same about Server 2003?

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      • iroalI
        iroal @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said:

        So the first questions....

        1. Can 2003 R2 be updated to 2008 or newer? That might help a lot.
        2. Can you retire any of the workloads or update them?
        3. Can any of the workloads be moved off of windows?

        Unfortunately Navision Attain Server 3.0 can just only be execute in W2003 so the answer to the three questions is no. 8(

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @iroal
          last edited by

          @iroal my only question to this is why not P2V the system and reactive the system with a new product key.

          Or purchase a 2003 R2 key, and build a new VM and then setup the environment, importing the data etc. Yes you have to spend on licensing, but you have to anyways.

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          • iroalI
            iroal @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said:

            @iroal my only question to this is why not P2V the system and reactive the system with a new product key.

            Or purchase a 2003 R2 key, and build a new VM and then setup the environment, importing the data etc. Yes you have to spend on licensing, but you have to anyways.

            Can I buy an W2003 OEM license or I need a Retail version ?

            I've seen W2003 Oem in Ebay

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              I would assume retail (but I'm no licensing expert)

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @DustinB3403 said:

                I would assume retail (but I'm no licensing expert)

                He can use OEM. Just cannot move the VM around.

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                • iroalI
                  iroal @JaredBusch
                  last edited by iroal

                  I'll use same key, I'll try to activate via phone, in case It does not work I'll buy a new Oem License in Ebay.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @iroal
                    last edited by

                    @iroal said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    So the first questions....

                    1. Can 2003 R2 be updated to 2008 or newer? That might help a lot.
                    2. Can you retire any of the workloads or update them?
                    3. Can any of the workloads be moved off of windows?

                    Unfortunately Navision Attain Server 3.0 can just only be execute in W2003 so the answer to the three questions is no. 8(

                    If it were me, and I had the install software for Navision, I would try to install it on win2008 server - if it works great, if not, well you know for sure now. In either case, I'm sure you're talking about a piece of software that no longer actually has company support, so the fact that the support documentation says 2003 is not relevant.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @iroal
                      last edited by

                      @iroal said:

                      I'll use same key, I'll try to activate via phone, in case It does not work I'll buy a new Oem License in Ebay.

                      This would be illegal, technically, assuming you don't buy another license. Legally you need to buy either another OEM or a retail version or a volume license for something current, then use downgrade rights to use the 2003 server.

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                      • iroalI
                        iroal @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @iroal said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        So the first questions....

                        1. Can 2003 R2 be updated to 2008 or newer? That might help a lot.
                        2. Can you retire any of the workloads or update them?
                        3. Can any of the workloads be moved off of windows?

                        Unfortunately Navision Attain Server 3.0 can just only be execute in W2003 so the answer to the three questions is no. 8(

                        If it were me, and I had the install software for Navision, I would try to install it on win2008 server - if it works great, if not, well you know for sure now. In either case, I'm sure you're talking about a piece of software that no longer actually has company support, so the fact that the support documentation says 2003 is not relevant.

                        I tried but It didn't work, It just work in W2000 or W2003.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @iroal
                          last edited by

                          @iroal said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @iroal said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          So the first questions....

                          1. Can 2003 R2 be updated to 2008 or newer? That might help a lot.
                          2. Can you retire any of the workloads or update them?
                          3. Can any of the workloads be moved off of windows?

                          Unfortunately Navision Attain Server 3.0 can just only be execute in W2003 so the answer to the three questions is no. 8(

                          If it were me, and I had the install software for Navision, I would try to install it on win2008 server - if it works great, if not, well you know for sure now. In either case, I'm sure you're talking about a piece of software that no longer actually has company support, so the fact that the support documentation says 2003 is not relevant.

                          I tried but It didn't work, It just work in W2000 or W2003.

                          Oh wow - that's even more telling about how probably poor the coding is. Sorry Bro.

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                          • V
                            vmnomad
                            last edited by

                            I have spent a couple of days before I figured out how to P2V W2003 R2 server and put all my steps in a short blog post herelink text

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                            • iroalI
                              iroal @vmnomad
                              last edited by

                              @vmnomad said:

                              I have spent a couple of days before I figured out how to P2V W2003 R2 server and put all my steps in a short blog post herelink text

                              Nice Tutorial, thank you.

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                              • iroalI
                                iroal @Dashrender
                                last edited by iroal

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @iroal said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @iroal said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                So the first questions....

                                1. Can 2003 R2 be updated to 2008 or newer? That might help a lot.
                                2. Can you retire any of the workloads or update them?
                                3. Can any of the workloads be moved off of windows?

                                Unfortunately Navision Attain Server 3.0 can just only be execute in W2003 so the answer to the three questions is no. 8(

                                If it were me, and I had the install software for Navision, I would try to install it on win2008 server - if it works great, if not, well you know for sure now. In either case, I'm sure you're talking about a piece of software that no longer actually has company support, so the fact that the support documentation says 2003 is not relevant.

                                I tried but It didn't work, It just work in W2000 or W2003.

                                Oh wow - that's even more telling about how probably poor the coding is. Sorry Bro.

                                I've spend days trying to create at least a portable version for Navision Client, and It was impossible.

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                                • V
                                  vmnomad @iroal
                                  last edited by

                                  @iroal I am wondering if VMware ThinApp could help you to run Navision Client on W2008

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                                  • iroalI
                                    iroal @vmnomad
                                    last edited by

                                    @vmnomad said:

                                    @iroal I am wondering if VMware ThinApp could help you to run Navision Client on W2008

                                    I made the test but It crashes, only solution was use Xp mode in W7.

                                    Now the problem It's what to do with Windows 10 users, Xp mode is not included in W10..

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      Is that a client server application? i.e. something has to be installed client side as well?

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                                      • iroalI
                                        iroal @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        Is that a client server application? i.e. something has to be installed client side as well?

                                        Yes It's the typical Server/Client Application.
                                        Server only works in W2000 W2003 and client in W2000 or Xp.

                                        It's not possible to upgrade because of all the change done in the original model, next version Navison 4.0 can be install in W7 and W2008.

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                                        • IT-ADMINI
                                          IT-ADMIN
                                          last edited by

                                          i recently virtualize a WIN Server 2008 R2, and it didn't ask me for activation, i wonder if it will be the case with you, i hope so

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
                                            last edited by

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            i recently virtualize a WIN Server 2008 R2, and it didn't ask me for activation, i wonder if it will be the case with you, i hope so

                                            Even if it doesn't require re-activation, he's still legally required to have a license for it.
                                            re-activation should be about the easiest part of this situation.

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