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    • garak0410G
      garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      So on a user's system when it is failing, what is an nslookup of the A and CNAMEs returning?

      What is the preferred syntax to check the A and CNAME with NSLOOKUP? Thanks....

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by

        Even more simple than an NSLookup... what does IPconifg /all return on a computer that is having problems?

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        • garak0410G
          garak0410 @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          Even more simple than an NSLookup... what does IPconifg /all return on a computer that is having problems?

          Even though DHCP is off on old and new DC/DNS server, it does contain info there...

          One of the PC's that cannot resolve the name to the FILESERVER shows:

          DHCP Server: Old DC
          DNS Server: New DC
          Primary WINS Server: Old PC

          On my PC (Which is on Windows 8.1), doesn't return DHCP or WINS server info...and I've never had the DNS problem.

          Keep in mind, this PC and resolve all other server and PC names EXCEPT the FILESERVER.

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          • garak0410G
            garak0410 @garak0410
            last edited by

            @garak0410 said:

            @Dashrender said:

            Even more simple than an NSLookup... what does IPconifg /all return on a computer that is having problems?

            Even though DHCP is off on old and new DC/DNS server, it does contain info there...

            One of the PC's that cannot resolve the name to the FILESERVER shows:

            DHCP Server: Old DC
            DNS Server: New DC
            Primary WINS Server: Old PC

            On my PC (Which is on Windows 8.1), doesn't return DHCP or WINS server info...and I've never had the DNS problem.

            Keep in mind, this PC and resolve all other server and PC names EXCEPT the FILESERVER.

            Also, on a PC that is working and where I manually set the preferred DNS to the new DC and made the alternate the old DC, he also shows DHCP from the OLD DC.

            I've really had no real solutions...just Band-Aids to get people up.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @garak0410
              last edited by

              @garak0410 said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              So on a user's system when it is failing, what is an nslookup of the A and CNAMEs returning?

              What is the preferred syntax to check the A and CNAME with NSLOOKUP? Thanks....

              Just....

              nslookup aname
              nslookup CNAME

              Where aname and CNAME are the host names. There is no further syntax.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                Did I see that you have two DHCP servers running? There should be only one.

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                • garak0410G
                  garak0410 @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @garak0410 said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  So on a user's system when it is failing, what is an nslookup of the A and CNAMEs returning?

                  What is the preferred syntax to check the A and CNAME with NSLOOKUP? Thanks....

                  Just....

                  nslookup aname
                  nslookup CNAME

                  Where aname and CNAME are the host names. There is no further syntax.

                  On PC's that had no problem or had a problem, they either NSLOOKUP ANAME or CNAME to the old or new DNS server...and they all end with can't find cname: Non-existent domain (same with aname)

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                  • garak0410G
                    garak0410
                    last edited by

                    I noticed on the new DC/DNS server, under the reverse lookup ZONE properties, under NAME SERVERS, the new DC/DNS server shows UNKNOWN...OK to update it?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @garak0410
                      last edited by

                      @garak0410 said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @garak0410 said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      So on a user's system when it is failing, what is an nslookup of the A and CNAMEs returning?

                      What is the preferred syntax to check the A and CNAME with NSLOOKUP? Thanks....

                      Just....

                      nslookup aname
                      nslookup CNAME

                      Where aname and CNAME are the host names. There is no further syntax.

                      On PC's that had no problem or had a problem, they either NSLOOKUP ANAME or CNAME to the old or new DNS server...and they all end with can't find cname: Non-existent domain (same with aname)

                      Sounds like you don't have your search domains defined and you are skipping the FQDN and are trying to use short names.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
                        last edited by Dashrender

                        I agree with Scott, you're using short name instead of FQDN (Fully Qualified Domain Names). It's something that started back in the NT days with NetBIOS. You really should replace all \servername\sharename with \severname.domainname.com\sharename

                        for your nslookup try 'nslookup olddc.domainname.com' or nslookup newdc.domainname.com

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
                          last edited by Dashrender

                          Would you please post the exact output from ipconfig /all from a working and non working machine

                          should look like the follwing (you can change the same things I did if you want to hide your domain from us).

                          U:>ipconfig /all

                          Windows IP Configuration

                          Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : om1290d2
                          Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domainname.net <- changed to protect
                          Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
                          IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
                          WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
                          DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domainname.net <- changed to protect

                          Ethernet adapter Tripwire Tunnel Connection:

                          Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
                          Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
                          Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Tripwire TAP Network Adapter
                          Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-FF-CD-xx-xx-xx ** <- changed to protect**
                          DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
                          Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

                          Ethernet adapter vEthernet (New Virtual Switch):

                          Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
                          Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Hyper-V Virtual Ethernet Adapter #2
                          Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : F0-92-1C-xx-xx-xx <- changed to protect
                          DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
                          Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
                          Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4d7d:7ce2:b72c:eb60%9(Preferred)
                          IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.1.9(Preferred)
                          Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
                          Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.1.254
                          DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 183538204
                          DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-1A-7B-00-80-F0-92-1C-DD-55-A8

                          DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.1.19
                          172.16.1.245
                          NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

                          Tunnel adapter isatap.{F24F29C3-326D-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx}: <- changed to protect

                          Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
                          Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
                          Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
                          Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
                          DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
                          Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

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                          • garak0410G
                            garak0410 @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            This is from a PC that never lost it's naming to the FILESERVER:

                            Windows IP Configuration

                            Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : accounting01
                            Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domainname.local
                            Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
                            IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
                            WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
                            DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domainname.local

                            Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

                            Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : pinnstr.local
                            Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
                            Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-30-67-xx-xx-xx
                            DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
                            Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
                            Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::d80:7b35:xx(Preferred)
                            IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : xx.xx.xx.xx(Preferred)
                            Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
                            Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:00:34 AM
                            Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, May 29, 2014 8:00:01 AM
                            Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx (our firewall)
                            DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx (old DC/DNS server)
                            DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234893415
                            DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-17-8D-07-0C-00-30-67-61-63-9C

                            DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx (new DC/DNS Server)
                            10.xx.xx.xx (old DC/DNS server)
                            Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx (old DC/DNS server)
                            NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

                            Tunnel adapter isatap.domainname.local:

                            Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
                            Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : domainname.local
                            Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
                            Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
                            DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
                            Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

                            From a PC I had problems with today (and still do):

                            Windows IP Configuration

                            Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : estimating02
                            Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domainname.local
                            Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
                            IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
                            WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
                            DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domainname.local

                            Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

                            Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : domainname.local
                            Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network Connec
                            tion
                            Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1E-4F-xx-xx-xx
                            DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
                            Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
                            Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::3156:295c:xx(Preferred)
                            IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx(Preferred)
                            Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
                            Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:14:11 PM
                            Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:55:01 AM
                            Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx (firewall)
                            DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.16 (old DC/DNS server)
                            DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234888783
                            DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-1A-61-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx

                            DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx(new DC/DNS server)
                            Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.xx.xx.xx (old DC/DNS server)
                            NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

                            Tunnel adapter isatap.domainname.local:

                            Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
                            Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : domainname.local
                            Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
                            Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
                            DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
                            Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              See the search name in the working one? That is missing in the not working one I think.

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                              • garak0410G
                                garak0410 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                See the search name in the working one? That is missing in the not working one I think.

                                I see it in both.

                                Is there any clue as to why this is ONLY name resolution problems to the fileserver and nothing else?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  Can't think of anything. If every setting is the same.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
                                    last edited by Dashrender

                                    @garak0410 said:

                                    Is there any clue as to why this is ONLY name resolution problems to the fileserver and nothing else?

                                    Host files, LMHOST files If the other servers are answering to NetBIOS over IP calls where the new file server won't.

                                    My biggest guess is the last one.. Windows 2012 server might not be resolving NetBIOS names any more...

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      Assuming you didn't install WINS on your new AD server you should remove the WINS information from all clients and from the DHCP server so it's not handing out that information.
                                      This will also cause issues in some cases.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Oh good point. Don't want old WINS mucking about.

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                                        • garak0410G
                                          garak0410 @Dashrender
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                                          • garak0410G
                                            garak0410 @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            Assuming you didn't install WINS on your new AD server you should remove the WINS information from all clients and from the DHCP server so it's not handing out that information.
                                            This will also cause issues in some cases.

                                            Let me take a look at this.

                                            Now, I KNOW I checked this but I guess I overlooked it and I know it wouldn't just go away. There was no reverse lookup for the file server (services01 is its physical name). I just added it.

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