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    Before Reinstall ... Windows Desktop Backup

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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @dafyre
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      @dafyre said:

      It's not the fastest thing in the world for imaging, but it does work... Clonezilla also seems to be great if you are going to just image from 😄 to a USB drive.

      I tried it on my own laptop when I wiped and reinstalled last month.

      It took so long I gave up on it.

      I thought maybe it was just me.

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      • RojoLocoR
        RojoLoco @dafyre
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        @dafyre said:

        I've had good luck doing it with Veeam Endpoint Recovery Free. it works great.

        When I tested that, I could never get a disk image to restore correctly. Macrium Reflect Free edition was the fastest and most reliable in my tests, both for backup and restoration, whole disk imaging.

        But let's face it, if the software can't successfully restore the image, it's not worth a shit.

        (I have also used Acronis, DriveImage XML, and Clonezilla in the past, all great success!)

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          Just using dd works, too.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            Just using dd works, too.

            dd?

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @RojoLoco
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              @RojoLoco said:

              But let's face it, if the software can't successfully restore the image, it's not worth a shit.

              Considering that I couldn't even get the BACKUP/IMAGE to take, I never even got a chance for it to fail there.

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              • A
                Alex Sage @BRRABill
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                @BRRABill said:

                dd?

                This: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)

                or maybe this: https://www.dunkindonuts.com/dunkindonuts/en.html

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  @BRRABill said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  Just using dd works, too.

                  dd?

                  The standard under the hood imaging tool. It's a native UNIX command but available for every platform. It's just a directly block pipe. Does nothing fancy and always works.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @Alex Sage
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                    @aaronstuder said:

                    or maybe this: https://www.dunkindonuts.com/dunkindonuts/en.html

                    That's what I figured. I actually just got back from there with a coffee. Thanks @scottalanmiller !

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill said:

                      @aaronstuder said:

                      or maybe this: https://www.dunkindonuts.com/dunkindonuts/en.html

                      That's what I figured. I actually just got back from there with a coffee. Thanks @scottalanmiller !

                      I'm so sorry.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
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                        I've been using Clonezilla for over 10 years. it's my go to for this type of thing.

                        If you had performance issues using it, I'd look at your interfaces to see if there was a problem there.

                        Normally I push my images to a SMB share, it's also where I restore images from. a 20 GB image takes under 10 mins to restore, probably closer to 5 min on a 1 Gb network.

                        If you were backing up to a USB 2.0 attached (or god forbid a 1.1) that would be why it was so slow.

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                        • MattSpellerM
                          MattSpeller
                          last edited by MattSpeller

                          Microsoft P2V converter called Disk2VHD. Rips it super quick, does it while logged in to windows, dumps it into a (kind of) convenient format (VHD, mountable in disk management)

                          100% free, does not need to be installed, application is under 1mb, requires no prep

                          https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @MattSpeller
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                            @MattSpeller said:

                            Microsoft P2V converter called Disk2VHD. Rips it super quick, does it while logged in to windows, dumps it into a (kind of) convenient format (VHD, mountable in disk management)

                            100% free, does not need to be installed, application is under 1mb

                            https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx

                            Can you restore that to bare metal?

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                            • MattSpellerM
                              MattSpeller @Dashrender
                              last edited by MattSpeller

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              Microsoft P2V converter called Disk2VHD. Rips it super quick, does it while logged in to windows, dumps it into a (kind of) convenient format (VHD, mountable in disk management)

                              100% free, does not need to be installed, application is under 1mb

                              https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx

                              Can you restore that to bare metal?

                              I've never wanted to, I have no idea. Probably? It'd be messy.

                              Edit: why not just fire it up as a vm? 😛

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                If you were backing up to a USB 2.0 attached (or god forbid a 1.1) that would be why it was so slow.

                                It was USB 2.0, but so much slower than other products.

                                Plus now that I have heard other are having restore issues ... maybe I'll just stick to other stuff.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @MattSpeller
                                  last edited by

                                  @MattSpeller said:

                                  Microsoft P2V converter called Disk2VHD. Rips it super quick, does it while logged in to windows, dumps it into a (kind of) convenient format (VHD, mountable in disk management)

                                  100% free, does not need to be installed, application is under 1mb, requires no prep

                                  https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx

                                  That's a great idea.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @MattSpeller
                                    last edited by

                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    I've never wanted to, I have no idea. Probably? It'd be messy.

                                    Edit: why not just fire it up as a vm? 😛

                                    I guess the fear would be ... what if you needed to put the system back exactly as you found it?

                                    Unlikely since you are trying to wipe and restore. But something to consider.

                                    Considering you have the data, though, I'm not sure that is such a big issue.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill
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                                      Hmmm, this old issue again, from the DISK2VHD page.

                                      I mean really, come on.

                                      Is it legal to just MAKE a VHD, I wonder?

                                      Note: Physical-to-virtual hard drive migration of a Windows installation is a valid function for customers with Software Assurance and full retail copies of Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7. Software Assurance provides users valuable benefits—please contact Microsoft Corporation for further information. Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7 installed by Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEM) using OEM versions of these products may not be transferred to a virtual hard drive in accordance with Microsoft licensing terms.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @BRRABill
                                        last edited by

                                        @BRRABill said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        If you were backing up to a USB 2.0 attached (or god forbid a 1.1) that would be why it was so slow.

                                        It was USB 2.0, but so much slower than other products.

                                        Plus now that I have heard other are having restore issues ... maybe I'll just stick to other stuff.

                                        who is havin a problem with what? Clonezilla? I've never had a problem I didn't cause.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @BRRABill said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          If you were backing up to a USB 2.0 attached (or god forbid a 1.1) that would be why it was so slow.

                                          It was USB 2.0, but so much slower than other products.

                                          Plus now that I have heard other are having restore issues ... maybe I'll just stick to other stuff.

                                          who is havin a problem with what? Clonezilla? I've never had a problem I didn't cause.

                                          No one. The stated issue was with Veeam.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            I use Veeam Endpoint Backup and it works great. I have never had a problem restoring individual files or encore systems. I did a bare metal restore last week, remotely in fact.

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