Company's TV - Show your own stuff during commercials?
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@Dashrender said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
@wirestyle22 said:
So I called the MPLC(http://www.mplc.org/) to ask them questions related to an umbrella license. They do have a list of what producers they allow but disney, pixar, etc are all listed. Huge companies as well as independent developers. I was quoted at $545 per year and that is for all content listed under them (which again is a ton) for unlimited viewing. This is just to give you guys an idea based on the information I've received.
This is per address btw not per company.
yeah the same thing goes for music. There are three licenses you have to get when covering music, amounts to around $600/yr/location as well.
I specifically asked if the way we view it (provided it's legal) matters (I was very specific) and they said no. If it's DRM free content we can stream it to any device within the building.
Now - that said, Netflix can still by agreement say you can't use them for business purposes, even if you pay the fees that @wirestyle22 found.
I found them for movies/music not for services. Netflix is still a no go. If the service itself has it's own licensing, the services licensing overrides the studios. I meant it would work for things like Plex but only if it's an in-house Plex server. If it's remote then both buildings would need to have an umbrella license and they would both need to be buildings owned by the same organization.
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@Dashrender said:
I specifically asked if the way we view it (provided it's legal) matters (I was very specific) and they said no. If it's DRM free content we can stream it to any device within the building.
I'm pretty sure the same goes for music.
It does you have to go to the Labels for them usually. Nice thing though with music is once you are licesned you don't have to buy music.. you can just download from the cheap per month services that let you download all the mp3/flac such as https://www.idjpool.com/
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@Jason said:
@wirestyle22 said:
Not really any different than how others do it. You always have to make deals.
They base their licensing costs for new content on assumed viewership. That seems so risky to me considering Hollywood tries to do this and fails every year. Statistical analysis doesn't account for public opinion--at least not well anyway.
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@wirestyle22 said:
@Jason said:
@wirestyle22 said:
Not really any different than how others do it. You always have to make deals.
They base their licensing costs for new content on assumed viewership. That seems so risky to me considering Hollywood tries to do this and fails every year. Statistical analysis doesn't account for public opinion--at least not well anyway.
Not different than when Networks Gamble on TV shows.
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@Jason said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Jason said:
@wirestyle22 said:
Not really any different than how others do it. You always have to make deals.
They base their licensing costs for new content on assumed viewership. That seems so risky to me considering Hollywood tries to do this and fails every year. Statistical analysis doesn't account for public opinion--at least not well anyway.
Not different than when Networks Gamble on TV shows.
That's true
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Even with those models... they are clearly making enough money - because they are spending TONS making their own series.. so I'm not that worried about Netflix.
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@Dashrender said:
Even with those models... they are clearly making enough money - because they are spending TONS making their own series.. so I'm not that worried about Netflix.
Marco Polo especially. $90 million for season one. $9 million per episode.
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@Dashrender said:
Even with those models... they are clearly making enough money - because they are spending TONS making their own series.. so I'm not that worried about Netflix.
This whole thread makes me laugh, as I'm not worried about any of the entertainment industry's profitability. I'll continue to not follow all these rules and regulations mentioned above, thanks.
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It would be interesting to see a change in Netflix billing based on how much you watch. But a flat $10 for unlimited is really hard to justify going to a per view system.
I could see it now - $0.10 a show, $0.15 for a movie, I'm not sure if I'd get over the $10 a month - could be close... I put re-runs on in the background when I'm working or surfing the web.
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@RojoLoco said:
@Dashrender said:
Even with those models... they are clearly making enough money - because they are spending TONS making their own series.. so I'm not that worried about Netflix.
This whole thread makes me laugh, as I'm not worried about any of the entertainment industry's profitability. I'll continue to not follow all these rules and regulations mentioned above, thanks.
I'm of the opinion that I can make that decision for myself but not for my company. I have to present the information to them and they make their choice.
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@RojoLoco said:
@Dashrender said:
Even with those models... they are clearly making enough money - because they are spending TONS making their own series.. so I'm not that worried about Netflix.
This whole thread makes me laugh, as I'm not worried about any of the entertainment industry's profitability. I'll continue to not follow all these rules and regulations mentioned above, thanks.
It's people's lively hoods at stake, when you avoid it the guy that was on set making $30,000/year or less hurts the most. Next time they won't pay him. There is actually not that much money in it for the people actually doing the work so any you steal from them hurts them a lot (and yes it is stealing).
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@RojoLoco said:
@Dashrender said:
Even with those models... they are clearly making enough money - because they are spending TONS making their own series.. so I'm not that worried about Netflix.
This whole thread makes me laugh, as I'm not worried about any of the entertainment industry's profitability. I'll continue to not follow all these rules and regulations mentioned above, thanks.
Until your company gets audited and sued - oh.. and by the way are you completely ok with anyone and everyone just taking whatever your company does and not pay you for it?
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@wirestyle22 said:
@RojoLoco said:
@Dashrender said:
Even with those models... they are clearly making enough money - because they are spending TONS making their own series.. so I'm not that worried about Netflix.
This whole thread makes me laugh, as I'm not worried about any of the entertainment industry's profitability. I'll continue to not follow all these rules and regulations mentioned above, thanks.
I'm of the opinion that I can make that decision for myself but not for my company. I have to present the information to them and they make their choice.
Oh sure, I'm certainly not speaking for "at the office" applications. But the discussion of all the semantics of all these laws and Ts and Cs makes me glad to retain the title of "Red Phil the Pirate"..... yarrrrr....
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@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
Even with those models... they are clearly making enough money - because they are spending TONS making their own series.. so I'm not that worried about Netflix.
Marco Polo especially. $90 million for season one. $9 million per episode.
One of, if not the most expensive TV show ever made
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@wirestyle22 said:
@RojoLoco said:
@Dashrender said:
Even with those models... they are clearly making enough money - because they are spending TONS making their own series.. so I'm not that worried about Netflix.
This whole thread makes me laugh, as I'm not worried about any of the entertainment industry's profitability. I'll continue to not follow all these rules and regulations mentioned above, thanks.
I'm of the opinion that I can make that decision for myself but not for my company. I have to present the information to them and they make their choice.
Agreed - on a personal level this is one thing. But a business, especially one that makes money off someone else's stuff they stole (like Office) - no go for me.
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@Jason said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@Dashrender said:
Even with those models... they are clearly making enough money - because they are spending TONS making their own series.. so I'm not that worried about Netflix.
Marco Polo especially. $90 million for season one. $9 million per episode.
One of, if not the most expensive TV show ever made
Holy crap. I remember when The Next Generation was record setting at $100K/episode.
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@wirestyle22 Just deploy Apple TV's and let them Airsync their content over.
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@Dashrender said:
@RojoLoco said:
@Dashrender said:
Even with those models... they are clearly making enough money - because they are spending TONS making their own series.. so I'm not that worried about Netflix.
This whole thread makes me laugh, as I'm not worried about any of the entertainment industry's profitability. I'll continue to not follow all these rules and regulations mentioned above, thanks.
Until your company gets audited and sued - oh.. and by the way are you completely ok with anyone and everyone just taking whatever your company does and not pay you for it?
Audited and sued for what exactly? We have neither audio nor video playing anywhere in here. And our software and hosting services would be much harder to pirate than a movie or TV show.
