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    How are you using SMR based drives?

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      Jason Banned @MattSpeller
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      @MattSpeller said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @MattSpeller said:

      That's more or less how you're supposed to design them ideally.

      For those not aware, it is known as "Disk 2 Disk 2 Tape" or D2D2T.

      I'd suggest something more like:

      D2D2T2[offsite storage company that will rotate your tape back to you while maintaining 12 months of monthly so you don't have to buy an endless quantity of tape (which most of them will happily sell / bring to you automatically for your permanent year end one until you accumulate enough years that they can rotate those back to you as well (typically 5 to 10) which I highly recommend because putting the stickers on each tape (@*#&% SUCKS and if you're off by a millimeter it'll jam up and cause headaches in your autoloader that'll have you cursing like a sailor while fishing little bits of sticky goo off the rails of the autoloader don't ask me how I know!!!! inhales).]

      Too bad many of us have to keep backup forever to comply with laws.

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        MattSpeller @Jason
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        @Jason Forever? What the heck do you do? Legal stuff?

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          scottalanmiller @Jason
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          @Jason said:

          Too bad many of us have to keep backup forever to comply with laws.

          Not TOO many of us. That's a pretty rare requirement.

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            scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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            @MattSpeller said:

            @Jason Forever? What the heck do you do? Legal stuff?

            SEC is seven years. So can't be that one.

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              MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Jason said:

              Too bad many of us have to keep backup forever to comply with laws.

              Not TOO many of us. That's a pretty rare requirement.

              Indeed and if you have extra years of backups it can be a liability for the business

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                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                @MattSpeller said:

                @Jason Forever? What the heck do you do? Legal stuff?

                SEC is seven years. So can't be that one.

                Medical is 7 years also - except for minor, then it's 21 yrs old + 2.

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                  Dashrender @MattSpeller
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                  @MattSpeller said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Jason said:

                  Too bad many of us have to keep backup forever to comply with laws.

                  Not TOO many of us. That's a pretty rare requirement.

                  Indeed and if you have extra years of backups it can be a liability for the business

                  Sad how many don't realize this. But like people having bad passwords - they won't change until they are forced to due to someone stealing their identity - and even then many don't bother changing their ways.

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                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @MattSpeller said:

                    @Jason Forever? What the heck do you do? Legal stuff?

                    SEC is seven years. So can't be that one.

                    Medical is 7 years also - except for minor, then it's 21 yrs old + 2.

                    We call that 23.

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                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @MattSpeller said:

                      @Jason Forever? What the heck do you do? Legal stuff?

                      SEC is seven years. So can't be that one.

                      Medical is 7 years also - except for minor, then it's 21 yrs old + 2.

                      We call that 23.

                      LOL - don't ask me why the law is written this way... it's just weird.
                      What's odd is that it's not the age of majority + 2, that would be 19 + 2 in Nebraska = 21...

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                        DataRecoveryGuru
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                        Currently using a couple of 8TB SMR Seagate Archive model drive for longer term archive storage.

                        Matter of fact, in the few rounds of surface testing to see how it holds up, it seems to develop slow reads quite early. Still new technology in production, therefore not much data available to analyze as far as reliability goes.

                        Definitely not designed for RAIDs or anything performance oriented.

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                          Jason Banned @MattSpeller
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                          @MattSpeller said:

                          @Jason Forever? What the heck do you do? Legal stuff?

                          A class action lawsuit 15 years ago, they lost but the outcome of that was everyone in the industry now has to keep all data forever. (Not to mention what they said the companies where doing as they tried against about 10 companies was not illegal)

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                            MattSpeller @Jason
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                            @Jason said:

                            @MattSpeller said:

                            @Jason Forever? What the heck do you do? Legal stuff?

                            A class action lawsuit 15 years ago, they lost but the outcome of that was everyone in the industry now has to keep all data forever. (Not to mention what they said the companies where doing as they tried against about 10 companies was not illegal)

                            That's a hell of a burden on the company. Gross.

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                              scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @Jason said:

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @Jason Forever? What the heck do you do? Legal stuff?

                              A class action lawsuit 15 years ago, they lost but the outcome of that was everyone in the industry now has to keep all data forever. (Not to mention what they said the companies where doing as they tried against about 10 companies was not illegal)

                              That's a hell of a burden on the company. Gross.

                              That's what starting new companies and killing off old ones is for. Things like that break the cycle.

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