Web Application VS Windows Application

scottalanmiller

what are you saying is the first time i hear it, i have to take some time to contemplate about this, i will check my papers and i will resume

Several of the projects in this community this past week have been non-relational. All logging projects like ELK and Graylog use NoSQL databases, for example.

scottalanmiller

And of course systems like Google were totally dependent on non-relational technology to make them plausible.

IT-ADMIN

i have to admit that i'm totally ignorant about this, lol

i'm just reading about this, from the time we were at school, we know only one thing : SQL when it comes to MDBS, we never learn or heard about this NoSQL DB, but to be honest it is shameful,

scottalanmiller

@IT-ADMIN said:

i have to admit that i'm totally ignorant about this, lol

i'm just reading about this, from the time we were at school, we know only one thing : SQL when it comes to MDBS, we never learn or heard about this NoSQL DB, but to be honest it is shameful,

I was lucky, I skipped the college thing so had a lot more chance to learn more

For your needs, I think that very likely MongoDB will work really well. Very easy to code against, very fast.

I know that you want to do PHP, but check out Meteor.js.

IT-ADMIN

really i feel that you are from another planet, lol
but i'm very happy that i keep learning new things everyday from you, i'm sure if you come here Scott, you will see that there is a huge difference in level, and people will not understand you, lol

scottalanmiller

@IT-ADMIN said:

really i feel that you are from another planet, lol
but i'm very happy that i keep learning new things everyday from you, i'm sure if you come here Scott, you will see that there is a huge difference in level, and people will not understand you, lol

Are you kidding, where I am no one has a computer. The store here using a mechanical cash drawer!!

IT-ADMIN

come on,,,

IT-ADMIN

i'm just reading about MangoDB
http://www.tutorialspoint.com/mongodb/mongodb_overview.htm

do you know a good documentation about this ?? or the above link is good ??

scottalanmiller

@IT-ADMIN said:

come on,,,

I am very serious.

scottalanmiller

@IT-ADMIN said:

i'm just reading about MangoDB
http://www.tutorialspoint.com/mongodb/mongodb_overview.htm

do you know a good documentation about this ?? or the above link is good ??

We are recording this conversation on MongoDB If you search for MongoDB in titles in MangoLassi, you will find that I wrote up an install guide for it last week

MongoDB's own website is pretty decent for getting you started. However, you don't need to learn the database to use it. Many frameworks, like Meteor, use it by default and everything that you need to interact with it is built in. So you can focus on programming, instead of on designing databases.

scottalanmiller

One thing that is interesting about MongoDB is that it is built with an JavaScript interface and its native language is JSON.

IT-ADMIN

sometimes i say how people like you have time to even discuss in this forum, he could be hired by big companies like google or apple, and not wasting his time with people like me

scottalanmiller

@IT-ADMIN said:

sometimes i say how people like you have time to even discuss in this forum, he could be hired by big companies like google or apple, and not wasting his time with people like me

Google has an NDA on interview processes, they can't even get me to talk to them. Apple has tried, nice people, but they don't pay enough for the kind of work and location (they pushed for me in Cupertino, they wouldn't let me work from their Austin office, so their pay rate just wasn't good enough.)

dafyre

@scottalanmiller said:

@IT-ADMIN said:

i'm just reading about MangoDB
http://www.tutorialspoint.com/mongodb/mongodb_overview.htm

do you know a good documentation about this ?? or the above link is good ??

We are recording this conversation on MongoDB If you search for MongoDB in titles in MangoLassi, you will find that I wrote up an install guide for it last week

MongoDB's own website is pretty decent for getting you started. However, you don't need to learn the database to use it. Many frameworks, like Meteor, use it by default and everything that you need to interact with it is built in. So you can focus on programming, instead of on designing databases.

In the event that you do try Meteor.js and your colleague doesn't like it, there is a PHP library for MongoDB as well.

IT-ADMIN

Ok, is it possible to use MongoDB if we have a relation many to many in our data model ?? i know it is possible but is it that simple as RDBMS ???

scottalanmiller

@IT-ADMIN said:

Ok, is it possible to use MongoDB if we have a relation many to many in our data model ?? i know it is possible but is it that simple as RDBMS ???

This question doesn't even make sense. You not be using your model, of course. The model that you have made exists solely to service a system you shouldn't be using. Just skip it.

No, it is far SIMPLER. Everything you have done already is unnecessary. not that it is all bad, it is good to know the data. But you are overthinking this. NoSQL makes this far easier in your case (and nearly all cases.) You are mired in the complexities of relational databases, you need to think more simply and more easily.

scottalanmiller

@dafyre said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@IT-ADMIN said:

i'm just reading about MangoDB
http://www.tutorialspoint.com/mongodb/mongodb_overview.htm

do you know a good documentation about this ?? or the above link is good ??

We are recording this conversation on MongoDB If you search for MongoDB in titles in MangoLassi, you will find that I wrote up an install guide for it last week

MongoDB's own website is pretty decent for getting you started. However, you don't need to learn the database to use it. Many frameworks, like Meteor, use it by default and everything that you need to interact with it is built in. So you can focus on programming, instead of on designing databases.

In the event that you do try Meteor.js and your colleague doesn't like it, there is a PHP library for MongoDB as well.

But you will likely make everything harder. It's hard to get easier than Meteor.

IT-ADMIN

is mongoDB opensource, right??

IT-ADMIN

in my above data model diagram, where i have many to many relationships between entities, what is the best approach: references or embedded documents ??

scottalanmiller

@IT-ADMIN said:

is mongoDB opensource, right??

Yes, AGPL and totally free.