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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @alex.olynyk
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      @alex.olynyk said:

      I added the A record in the place cPanel provided. Our website is hosted

      You website host != your DNS host. Are you sure this was where you needed to add that.

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        Alex Sage @alex.olynyk
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        @alex.olynyk And it points to your external IP address?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @alex.olynyk
          last edited by

          @alex.olynyk said:

          I added the A record in the place cPanel provided. Our website is hosted

          Who is your DNS host? It shouldn't be the same as your web host.

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          • alex.olynykA
            alex.olynyk @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller If its not my web host then it must be Windstream

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @alex.olynyk said:

              I added the A record in the place cPanel provided. Our website is hosted

              Who is your DNS host? It shouldn't be the same as your web host.

              Domain Registrar
              DNS Host
              Web Host

              Those are all separate services. You can have them provided by the same company but you should have them provided by different companies.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @alex.olynyk
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                @alex.olynyk said:

                @scottalanmiller If its not my web host then it must be Windstream

                😿 Windstream

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @alex.olynyk
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                  @alex.olynyk said:

                  @scottalanmiller If its not my web host then it must be Windstream

                  Highly recommend that this be fixed. Totally separate issue and not a "to do" for today. but get the notepad out and make a list. Your DNS should be completely independent of any other service that you have. The most important that it not be associated with is your ISP, which is Windstream.

                  There are lots of choices for free DNS hosting and some nice paid ones too. We use CloudFlare, it is free and I highly recommend it.

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                  • alex.olynykA
                    alex.olynyk
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                    I got the A record added on my public DNS host and I can reach owncloud externally using the domain name.

                    Im in the office now and i cant access it internally by hostname. I have an A record in internal DNS and there is nothing in my host file.

                    When I ping the domain name it fails cause its looking for the public IP address now. Does that mean hairpin routing isnt working?

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                    • dafyreD
                      dafyre @alex.olynyk
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                      @alex.olynyk said:

                      I got the A record added on my public DNS host and I can reach owncloud externally using the domain name.

                      Im in the office now and i cant access it internally by hostname. I have an A record in internal DNS and there is nothing in my host file.

                      When I ping the domain name it fails cause its looking for the public IP address now. Does that mean hairpin routing isnt working?

                      On your INTERNAL DNS, you need to be using your internal IP address for the owncloud box.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @alex.olynyk
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                        @alex.olynyk said:

                        When I ping the domain name it fails cause its looking for the public IP address now. Does that mean hairpin routing isnt working?

                        There should be no hairpin routing. This is for doing what your boss is telling you to do which is completely wrong and undermines the reason he gave you for doing it.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @alex.olynyk
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                          @alex.olynyk said:

                          When I ping the domain name it fails cause its looking for the public IP address now.

                          That means your internal DNS isn't working. How did this change? It was working, looking for the right IP yesterday, right?

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                          • alex.olynykA
                            alex.olynyk
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                            It was because I had it in my hosts file. I had to remove it from my hosts file at home so I could access it externally.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @alex.olynyk
                              last edited by

                              @alex.olynyk said:

                              It was because I had it in my hosts file. I had to remove it from my hosts file at home so I could access it externally.

                              Ah, if you are going to put it into your host file, you have to put it in and take it out depending on where you are. Put it into DNS so that you don't have to manually manage that.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @JaredBusch said:

                                Did you put in the local IP in your local DNS?

                                This is very important, you can't skip this step.

                                I asked you yesterday if you did this, you said that you had it resolving correctly. It's been many times that we've stated how important this step is. I even made a point of pointing out it could not be skipped. And... it was skipped.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @JaredBusch said:

                                  Did you put in the local IP in your local DNS?

                                  This is very important, you can't skip this step.

                                  I asked you yesterday if you did this, you said that you had it resolving correctly. It's been many times that we've stated how important this step is. I even made a point of pointing out it could not be skipped. And... it was skipped.

                                  And you question why i get tired of helping?

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch
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                                    I get paid to give the help that I freely give here.

                                    At least when clients are not listening to me I can continue to bill them.

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                                    • alex.olynykA
                                      alex.olynyk
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                                      I did put it in my internal DNS yesterday. But it was also in my host file. I forgot that I had it in both places

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @alex.olynyk
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                                        @alex.olynyk said:

                                        I did put it in my internal DNS yesterday. But it was also in my host file. I forgot that I had it in both places

                                        WHAT did you put in your internal DNS. You were told to put the internal IP in your internal DNS. It sounds like you put the external IP in your internal DNS.

                                        Answer the damned questions.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @alex.olynyk
                                          last edited by scottalanmiller

                                          @alex.olynyk said:

                                          I did put it in my internal DNS yesterday. But it was also in my host file. I forgot that I had it in both places

                                          Then why is internal DNS not working today? Give us nslookup outputs rather than vague descriptions that lack the critical details.

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre @alex.olynyk
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                                            @alex.olynyk said:

                                            I did put it in my internal DNS yesterday. But it was also in my host file. I forgot that I had it in both places

                                            You need to check your internal DNS and make sure that your internal DNS is set to use the internal IP address of your ownCloud server.

                                            After you make this change clear the Cache on your internal DNS server, as well as run ipconfig /flushdns from an elevated command prompt (assuming you are in Windows)

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