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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22
      last edited by

      My users are all over my county and people complain that they lose connection sometimes in the middle of work. How can I check if this is a WAN issue or a server issue? There is no timeout function set in group policy.

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      • RojoLocoR
        RojoLoco
        last edited by

        Are they using VPN to connect? Or is there a branch office VPN tunnel from point A to point B?

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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22 @RojoLoco
          last edited by

          @RojoLoco said:

          Are they using VPN to connect? Or is there a branch office VPN tunnel from point A to point B?

          RDP

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          • RojoLocoR
            RojoLoco @wirestyle22
            last edited by

            @wirestyle22 you just have RDP open to the outside? Do they not use RDP over some type of VPN?

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            • IRJI
              IRJ
              last edited by

              You should be using VPN, and if you are the logs should tell the story.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                The better way to ask that @RojoLoco is: @wirestyle22 do they have to connect to the RDP session using anything special?

                An open RDP connection is likely a WAN issue. If you have no VPN that they connect to first, and then use RDP to connect to terminal services then you have some design issues.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @IRJ
                  last edited by

                  @IRJ said:

                  You should be using VPN, and if you are the logs should tell the story.

                  Why? RDP is secure.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @IRJ said:

                    You should be using VPN, and if you are the logs should tell the story.

                    Why? RDP is secure.

                    I hope you're joking.. 😐

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @IRJ said:

                      You should be using VPN, and if you are the logs should tell the story.

                      Why? RDP is secure.

                      ???

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        RDP has it's own security, you don't need to run it over VPN.

                        RDS Gateways are for just this purpose.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          But you're literally providing a door for which hackers can easily attempt to enter, with minimal effort.

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                          • brianlittlejohnB
                            brianlittlejohn
                            last edited by

                            RDS Gateways push all traffic over SSL, effectively making it a single app ssl vpn.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              Why would this be any different than those who provide Citrix nFuse servers? They both use AD for authentication.

                              Why are you worried about someone authenticating against this and not against Google, or iTunes, or Amazon?

                              Of course I'm assuming that you only have port 3389 open, and should have some type of lockout setup on your accounts after x number of bad attempts.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @brianlittlejohn
                                last edited by Dashrender

                                @brianlittlejohn said:

                                RDS Gateways push all traffic over SSL, effectively making it a single app ssl vpn.

                                This I would need to verify.

                                Are you saying that the RDS Gateway uses something more than just the RDS client on Windows to establish that SSL connection?

                                and even so - that doesn't make it safer.

                                Google also wraps your login inside a SSL connection - but you can still attempt to log in until their system denies you for to man invalid attempts.

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                                • brianlittlejohnB
                                  brianlittlejohn @Dashrender
                                  last edited by brianlittlejohn

                                  @Dashrender It uses the RDP client, under advanced tab is where you set it up to access the RDS Gateway. The only thing on the firewall you have to open port 443.

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                                  • J
                                    Jason Banned @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    and even so - that doesn't make it safer.

                                    Google also wraps your login inside a SSL connection - but you can still attempt to log in until their system denies you for to man invalid attempts.

                                    It does make it safer. There is no way to stop what you are saying. You can do this with VPNs. Logins that require RSA Keys etc. That's why you have lock outs. We have ours set to three.

                                    Most large companies have Ctirix or RD Gateways. A VPN is unusually only for company owned devices and is more of a risk because it exposes the whole network directly to the device once logged in.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender the confusion here was that you said RDP is secure when it is not. You meant (and clarified in a followup post) that an RDS Gateway to RDP is secure.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @brianlittlejohn said:

                                        RDS Gateways push all traffic over SSL, effectively making it a single app ssl vpn.

                                        This I would need to verify.

                                        Are you saying that the RDS Gateway uses something more than just the RDS client on Windows to establish that SSL connection?

                                        and even so - that doesn't make it safer.

                                        Google also wraps your login inside a SSL connection - but you can still attempt to log in until their system denies you for to man invalid attempts.

                                        How is that different than a VPN?

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