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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      I had someone do the same thing with education this week. Their excuse for getting a bad education and throwing away opportunities was because they were "poor" and could not do the things that "rich people" did. But rich people got rich by doing smart things with their careers and education. If people truly want to succeed, they should look to the successful and emulate the things that make them successful. Most rich people used to be poor and have a lot to teach.

      Same goes for first world and third world countries. First world countries often get that way by working better. Not harder, everyone works about the same. More or less. But by investing well, building businesses that make sense, etc.

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      • IT-ADMINI
        IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        we are in the third world so i think stuff are more easier than yours in US

        I'm not in the US, by the way. I'm much closer to you. I'm only 150 miles off of Libya.

        so i geuss you are now in Italy ?? but you are a US citizen and you have long experience in US or maybe in Europe ??

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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          @IT-ADMIN said:

          so i geuss you are now in Italy ?? but you are a US citizen and you have long experience in US or maybe in Europe ??

          Crete, much, much poorer than Italy. Italy is closer to Algeria, I'm very near Libya, the Libyan Sea is within walking distance.

          Yes, I have experience in the US and in Europe. But also in Nicaragua and countries much poorer than where you are. That experience is what you should leverage, not ignore. I'm very aware of how companies do things well in demanding markets and how companies in poor markets could take advantage of that knowledge to succeed where others fail.

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22 @IT-ADMIN
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            @IT-ADMIN said:

            i understand what you mean Dear Scott, but a website whether it be an application or just blog or whatever... people still consider it a website and still expect to see effect and nice design on it (i'm talking about general public),
            in our days website get more and more attractive in term of effects and flash .... so these modern website has created a culture which is : a website must have at least an acceptable level of design, otherwise they will consider it a piece of scrap even if it is running a strong coding and data management system,
            this is what I mean

            You can have a beautiful, functional website that is composed of html tables used the right way. I know this isn't the point you're trying to make but I just want to throw it out there

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            • DenisKelleyD
              DenisKelley
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              I learned some C++ back in the day and probably forgot all of that. But if you want, check out a product called Ironspeed Designer. It is pretty awesome. http://www.ironspeed.com/products/Overview.aspx#gsc.tab=0

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                I learned C in 1989, I think.

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  I learned C in 1989, I think.

                  It was Turbo Pascal for me, in 1996. Toss in a course in assembly for good measure. I was never great at programming, never grokked the advanced algorithms, which is the real key to being a good code monkey.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    I started on GW-BASIC on DOS 1.

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates
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                      I found a book on QBasic when I was in 7th grade and started with that. I really don't do any programming though, I need to start learning more.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        I did most of my BASIC work with Amiga BASIC.

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                        • IT-ADMINI
                          IT-ADMIN
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                          what do you think Dear Scott of python programming language, i heard interesting things about it, also it is portable,

                          also what is the best IDE (has to be drag and drop GUI builder) i can use to make GUI application with it ??

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                          • travisdh1T
                            travisdh1 @IT-ADMIN
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                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            what do you think Dear Scott of python programming language, i heard interesting things about it, also it is portable,

                            also what is the best IDE (has to be drag and drop GUI builder) i can use to make GUI application with it ??

                            I've used python a little bit with a RaspberriPi doing sensor and light type things. I don't know that it'd be very good for doing GUI, but I'd look at Eclipse by the way of pydev.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              what do you think Dear Scott of python programming language, i heard interesting things about it, also it is portable,

                              Python isn't the "coolest" language, it has been around long enough to be "old and boring." 🙂 But if you read my stuff, I push it hard as the best "first" language for people to learn. It is advanced, mature, broadly available, reasonably fast and very rich in features.

                              It is indeed fully portable, as much as any language is. And it has powerful frameworks like Django, too.

                              Python is an excellent choice. It is in the same family of modern languages like Ruby, JavaScript and Go.

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                              • IT-ADMINI
                                IT-ADMIN
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                                i just took a look on Qt Designer, it looks good, anyone use it before??

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                                  @travisdh1 said:

                                  I've used python a little bit with a RaspberriPi doing sensor and light type things. I don't know that it'd be very good for doing GUI, but I'd look at Eclipse by the way of pydev.

                                  Well he should not be doing a GUI in the traditional sense, we are pretty sure from the full discussion that he should be using a web interface and whatever language he uses would just be server side.

                                  Python will do fat GUI on the desktop just fine, it's actually well known for that and will even work with the Windows toolset via IronPython. But that's not what I would recommend here.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    i just took a look on Qt Designer, it looks good, anyone use it before??

                                    Qt Designer is very good, but again... I can't stress this enough, unless you must make old fashioned desktop apps, don't do it. Using the Q Toolkit (Qt) is a great step making the apps cross-platform, but it doesn't address making them modern.

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @travisdh1 said:

                                      I've used python a little bit with a RaspberriPi doing sensor and light type things. I don't know that it'd be very good for doing GUI, but I'd look at Eclipse by the way of pydev.

                                      Well he should not be doing a GUI in the traditional sense, we are pretty sure from the full discussion that he should be using a web interface and whatever language he uses would just be server side.

                                      Python will do fat GUI on the desktop just fine, it's actually well known for that and will even work with the Windows toolset via IronPython. But that's not what I would recommend here.

                                      And that is why I don't do programming, don't know about this stuff. Might have to check out IronPython.

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre
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                                        @scottalanmiller -- You call PHP not a modern language? What makes a language modern or not?

                                        How do you determine the "best language" for a project? Anything you can do in one programming language can be done in another.

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22 @IT-ADMIN
                                          last edited by wirestyle22

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          i just took a look on Qt Designer, it looks good, anyone use it before??

                                          Use this: http://learnpythonthehardway.org/

                                          I don't make a lot of suggestions here as this is mostly a learning experience but I know a lot of coders who swear by it. True to its name it's not a quick and dirty style guide. This is if you want to learn python the right way.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                                            @travisdh1 said:

                                            And that is why I don't do programming, don't know about this stuff. Might have to check out IronPython.

                                            I wouldn't, it's just an example of the flexibility. Python + Qt is generally way better.

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