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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      You can run an AD server on Azure, but IaaS that you run yourself. Azure AD cannot do what you want. Office 365 has Azure AD already and doesn't meet your need.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        IaaS is what I was referring to. I knew you couldn't use Azure's AD for PC authentication, at least not yet.

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        • alexntgA
          alexntg @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said:

          I suppose something like Pertino along with a Azure based AD server could work.

          Or AWS. I'm running a multi-site domain in AWS for my test lab, and it works quite well.

          Something to be aware of with Pertino, if you're looking to use it with a Domain Controller - It works by adding another network interface, effectively multi-homing the DC. If it's just a DC out there, it shouldn't be much of an issue. However, if you grow into other machines in Azure/AWS and they need both local and Pertino access, it can lead to unexpected performance issues, like hairpinning local traffic through Pertino. Before going down this path, make sure to choose a VPN methodology that will effectively meet your needs.

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          • T
            technobabble
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            Interesting conversation here. So if you had a hosted MS server with AD (not Azure) it could authenticate desktops?

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            • alexntgA
              alexntg @technobabble
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              @technobabble said:

              Interesting conversation here. So if you had a hosted MS server with AD (not Azure) it could authenticate desktops?

              If you had a way of getting the two to talk, yes. For an office location, a site-to-site VPN would do the trick. For offsite or remote workers, you'd need a pre-login VPN client.

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              • T
                technobabble
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                Thanks @alexntg

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
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                  @alexntg having never used any of the cloud server solutions in any real way (I built a test setup as part of a demo once with SW) I'm unfamiliar with what they have to offer. Does AWS have a VPN appliance gateway device that you can add to your AWS environment to terminate VPN site to site tunnels? (and client to site presumably?)

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                  • alexntgA
                    alexntg @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said:

                    @alexntg having never used any of the cloud server solutions in any real way (I built a test setup as part of a demo once with SW) I'm unfamiliar with what they have to offer. Does AWS have a VPN appliance gateway device that you can add to your AWS environment to terminate VPN site to site tunnels? (and client to site presumably?)

                    I can't speak for Azure, but AWS does have an IPSEC VPN instance you can add to your hosted network. That being said, I actually don't use it and rather use a pair of Sophos UTMs.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      What does AWS charge for hosting your UTM?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Rackspace uses Vyatta as their UTM. It starts at $160/mo.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          is it me or does that price does seem very high.

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                          • alexntgA
                            alexntg @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said:

                            What does AWS charge for hosting your UTM?

                            It's actually a subscription based license running in an AWS instance. Last I checked, it was $.10 per hour plus instance charges, so you're be looking at around $75 per month for a Sophos UTM with 90% of features unlocked and ~35 per month for the VM to run it on (if you go with small). So for ~$110 per month, you could be the proud user of one of the best UTM products on the market.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said:

                              is it me or does that price does seem very high.

                              It is, but it is a screaming fast enterprise router. Compare to buying one.

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                              • alexntgA
                                alexntg @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                Rackspace uses Vyatta as their UTM. It starts at $160/mo.

                                Ouch! For what it costs, the feature set isn't quite what I'd expect.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Vyatta is pretty impressive. It's more a router than a UTM, though.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    how much bandwidth do you get with each of these servers/services?

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                                    • alexntgA
                                      alexntg @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      how much bandwidth do you get with each of these servers/services?

                                      For AWS, gigabit, though unless you have a larger instance size, you won't have the horsepower to make use of it. You pay for outgoing bandwidth; incoming is free.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Rackspace is a 100Mb/a interface unlimited incoming and $.12/GB outgoing.

                                        http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/servers/pricing/

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                                        • PSX_DefectorP
                                          PSX_Defector
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                                          All I know is the big V's cloud isn't as cheap, but it's considerably more advanced and robust than all the others. Plus our bandwidth is top notch. Rackspace uses cheaper bandwidth.

                                          We spin you up right.

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