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    • A
      Alex Sage
      last edited by

      Parts Ordered, with be here tomorrow! 😄

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      • A
        Alex Sage
        last edited by Alex Sage

        Here is what I ordered:

        • Thermaltake CORE V21 Black Extreme Micro ATX Cube Chassis CA-1D5-00S1WN-00
          http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PDDMN6S
        • EVGA 500 W1 80+, 500W Continuous Power, 3 Year Warranty Power Supply 100-W1-0500-KR
          http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H33SFJU
        • Gigabyte FM2+/FM2 AMD A78 HDMI Dual-Link DVI D-Sub 2-Way Crossfire mATX Motherboard GA-F2A78M-D3H
          http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I6DLJHQ
        • AMD A8 series Processor 3.6 4 AD767KXBJCBOX
          http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B011BD60S0
        • Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR3 1600 MT/s (PC3-12800) UDIMM Memory
          http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006YG9EEW
        • SanDisk Internal SSD 120GB 2.5-Inch SDSSDA-120G-G25
          http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S9Q9UKS
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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates @marcinozga
          last edited by

          @marcinozga said:

          If I hit powerball, I'm buying this "case": http://www.redharbinger.com/shop/cases/cross-desk-usa-only/

          years of research?

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @Alex Sage
            last edited by

            @anonymous said:

            Who makes a nice looking case?

            Who needs a case, just screw it to the wall 😛

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            • quicky2gQ
              quicky2g @Alex Sage
              last edited by

              @anonymous said:

              I have been thinking about this board:

              http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h

              • Micro ATX
              • Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
              • Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
              • OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
              • ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
              • 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors

              Why build a server without RAID?

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              • coliverC
                coliver @quicky2g
                last edited by

                @quicky2g said:

                @anonymous said:

                I have been thinking about this board:

                http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h

                • Micro ATX
                • Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
                • Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
                • OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
                • ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
                • 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors

                Why build a server without RAID?

                Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.

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                • quicky2gQ
                  quicky2g @coliver
                  last edited by quicky2g

                  @coliver said:

                  @quicky2g said:

                  @anonymous said:

                  I have been thinking about this board:

                  http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h

                  • Micro ATX
                  • Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
                  • Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
                  • OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
                  • ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
                  • 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors

                  Why build a server without RAID?

                  Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.

                  Ahhhh gotcha software versus hardware. I use software RAID at home too. Misread the comment.

                  Btw if you can handle the noise, a coworker of mine keeps saying there are tons of great deals on eBay for IBM servers...2x quad core CPU, dual PSU, SAS drives, RAID card (sometimes), 16GB+ of DDR3 for under $500 in a rackmount case.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @coliver
                    last edited by

                    @coliver said:

                    @quicky2g said:

                    @anonymous said:

                    I have been thinking about this board:

                    http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h

                    • Micro ATX
                    • Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
                    • Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
                    • OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
                    • ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
                    • 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors

                    Why build a server without RAID?

                    Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.

                    That's not without RAID, though. that's still with RAID.

                    coliverC 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @quicky2g
                      last edited by

                      @quicky2g said:

                      @coliver said:

                      @quicky2g said:

                      @anonymous said:

                      I have been thinking about this board:

                      http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h

                      • Micro ATX
                      • Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
                      • Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
                      • OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
                      • ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
                      • 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors

                      Why build a server without RAID?

                      Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.

                      Ahhhh gotcha software versus hardware. I use software RAID at home too. Misread the comment.

                      Btw if you can handle the noise, a coworker of mine keeps saying there are tons of great deals on eBay for IBM servers...2x quad core CPU, dual PSU, SAS drives, RAID card (sometimes), 16GB+ of DDR3 for under $500 in a rackmount case.

                      That's because.... IBM servers.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @coliver said:

                        @quicky2g said:

                        @anonymous said:

                        I have been thinking about this board:

                        http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h

                        • Micro ATX
                        • Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
                        • Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
                        • OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
                        • ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
                        • 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors

                        Why build a server without RAID?

                        Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.

                        That's not without RAID, though. that's still with RAID.

                        I always assume when someone says without RAID they mean without hardware RAID. I think that was the correct assumption in this case.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @quicky2g said:

                          @coliver said:

                          @quicky2g said:

                          @anonymous said:

                          I have been thinking about this board:

                          http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h

                          • Micro ATX
                          • Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
                          • Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
                          • OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
                          • ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
                          • 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors

                          Why build a server without RAID?

                          Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.

                          Ahhhh gotcha software versus hardware. I use software RAID at home too. Misread the comment.

                          Btw if you can handle the noise, a coworker of mine keeps saying there are tons of great deals on eBay for IBM servers...2x quad core CPU, dual PSU, SAS drives, RAID card (sometimes), 16GB+ of DDR3 for under $500 in a rackmount case.

                          That's because.... IBM servers.

                          Not that I'll be buying them any more - now that Lenovo owns everything - but overall I've loved all of the IBM servers I've worked on and deployed over the years. Granted it's nothing like Scott has.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @coliver
                            last edited by

                            @coliver said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @coliver said:

                            @quicky2g said:

                            @anonymous said:

                            I have been thinking about this board:

                            http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h

                            • Micro ATX
                            • Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
                            • Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
                            • OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
                            • ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
                            • 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors

                            Why build a server without RAID?

                            Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.

                            That's not without RAID, though. that's still with RAID.

                            I always assume when someone says without RAID they mean without hardware RAID. I think that was the correct assumption in this case.

                            that's a really weird way to say that you want RAID.

                            Do you want dinner?

                            No

                            Hey, where is my food?

                            You said you didn't want dinner!

                            I meant... I didn't want a salad.

                            huh?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @quicky2g said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @quicky2g said:

                              @anonymous said:

                              I have been thinking about this board:

                              http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h

                              • Micro ATX
                              • Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
                              • Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
                              • OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
                              • ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
                              • 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors

                              Why build a server without RAID?

                              Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.

                              Ahhhh gotcha software versus hardware. I use software RAID at home too. Misread the comment.

                              Btw if you can handle the noise, a coworker of mine keeps saying there are tons of great deals on eBay for IBM servers...2x quad core CPU, dual PSU, SAS drives, RAID card (sometimes), 16GB+ of DDR3 for under $500 in a rackmount case.

                              That's because.... IBM servers.

                              Not that I'll be buying them any more - now that Lenovo owns everything - but overall I've loved all of the IBM servers I've worked on and deployed over the years. Granted it's nothing like Scott has.

                              They are fine, i just don't like them as much as the alternatives and now that they are gone there isn't a path to anything and little reason to use them in a lab as IBM experience isn't valuable anymore like it use to be.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @coliver said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @coliver said:

                                @quicky2g said:

                                @anonymous said:

                                I have been thinking about this board:

                                http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h

                                • Micro ATX
                                • Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
                                • Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
                                • OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
                                • ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
                                • 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors

                                Why build a server without RAID?

                                Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.

                                That's not without RAID, though. that's still with RAID.

                                I always assume when someone says without RAID they mean without hardware RAID. I think that was the correct assumption in this case.

                                that's a really weird way to say that you want RAID.

                                Do you want dinner?

                                No

                                Hey, where is my food?

                                You said you didn't want dinner!

                                I meant... I didn't want a salad.

                                huh?

                                No argument that it is weird... but it seems to hold out on most topics about RAID.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @quicky2g said:

                                  @anonymous said:

                                  I have been thinking about this board:

                                  http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h

                                  • Micro ATX
                                  • Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
                                  • Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
                                  • OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
                                  • ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
                                  • 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors

                                  Why build a server without RAID?

                                  Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.

                                  That's not without RAID, though. that's still with RAID.

                                  I always assume when someone says without RAID they mean without hardware RAID. I think that was the correct assumption in this case.

                                  that's a really weird way to say that you want RAID.

                                  Do you want dinner?

                                  No

                                  Hey, where is my food?

                                  You said you didn't want dinner!

                                  I meant... I didn't want a salad.

                                  huh?

                                  I was thinking the same - if I see no mention of RAID, or a specific request for no RAID card, I'm pretty much assuming there is no RAID. I would never assume they are using software RAID - it's just no that common in the SMB world.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @quicky2g said:

                                    @coliver said:

                                    @quicky2g said:

                                    @anonymous said:

                                    I have been thinking about this board:

                                    http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h

                                    • Micro ATX
                                    • Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
                                    • Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
                                    • OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
                                    • ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
                                    • 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors

                                    Why build a server without RAID?

                                    Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.

                                    Ahhhh gotcha software versus hardware. I use software RAID at home too. Misread the comment.

                                    Btw if you can handle the noise, a coworker of mine keeps saying there are tons of great deals on eBay for IBM servers...2x quad core CPU, dual PSU, SAS drives, RAID card (sometimes), 16GB+ of DDR3 for under $500 in a rackmount case.

                                    That's because.... IBM servers.

                                    Not that I'll be buying them any more - now that Lenovo owns everything - but overall I've loved all of the IBM servers I've worked on and deployed over the years. Granted it's nothing like Scott has.

                                    They are fine, i just don't like them as much as the alternatives and now that they are gone there isn't a path to anything and little reason to use them in a lab as IBM experience isn't valuable anymore like it use to be.

                                    Very true. That's why my last purchase was an HP

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @coliver said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @coliver said:

                                      @quicky2g said:

                                      @anonymous said:

                                      I have been thinking about this board:

                                      http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h

                                      • Micro ATX
                                      • Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
                                      • Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
                                      • OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
                                      • ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
                                      • 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors

                                      Why build a server without RAID?

                                      Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.

                                      That's not without RAID, though. that's still with RAID.

                                      I always assume when someone says without RAID they mean without hardware RAID. I think that was the correct assumption in this case.

                                      that's a really weird way to say that you want RAID.

                                      Do you want dinner?

                                      No

                                      Hey, where is my food?

                                      You said you didn't want dinner!

                                      I meant... I didn't want a salad.

                                      huh?

                                      I was thinking the same - if I see no mention of RAID, or a specific request for no RAID card, I'm pretty much assuming there is no RAID. I would never assume they are using software RAID - it's just no that common in the SMB world.

                                      And yet it is common enough that anyone mentioning building their own storage is almost assumed to be choosing ZFS specifically to do software RAID. To the extent that nearly every discussion in SW comes down to a complete assumption that you would disable hardware RAID and run software RAID instead.

                                      In some regards, it is completely ignored in the SMB. And in certain groups in the SMB it is so common as to be blanket assumed.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @coliver said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @coliver said:

                                        @quicky2g said:

                                        @anonymous said:

                                        I have been thinking about this board:

                                        http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h

                                        • Micro ATX
                                        • Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
                                        • Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
                                        • OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
                                        • ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
                                        • 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors

                                        Why build a server without RAID?

                                        Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.

                                        That's not without RAID, though. that's still with RAID.

                                        I always assume when someone says without RAID they mean without hardware RAID. I think that was the correct assumption in this case.

                                        that's a really weird way to say that you want RAID.

                                        Do you want dinner?

                                        No

                                        Hey, where is my food?

                                        You said you didn't want dinner!

                                        I meant... I didn't want a salad.

                                        huh?

                                        I was thinking the same - if I see no mention of RAID, or a specific request for no RAID card, I'm pretty much assuming there is no RAID. I would never assume they are using software RAID - it's just no that common in the SMB world.

                                        And yet it is common enough that anyone mentioning building their own storage is almost assumed to be choosing ZFS specifically to do software RAID. To the extent that nearly every discussion in SW comes down to a complete assumption that you would disable hardware RAID and run software RAID instead.

                                        In some regards, it is completely ignored in the SMB. And in certain groups in the SMB it is so common as to be blanket assumed.

                                        Who uses ZFS? Is that really that common?

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                                        • quicky2gQ
                                          quicky2g @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @quicky2g said:

                                          @anonymous said:

                                          I have been thinking about this board:

                                          http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h

                                          • Micro ATX
                                          • Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
                                          • Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
                                          • OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
                                          • ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
                                          • 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors

                                          Why build a server without RAID?

                                          Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.

                                          That's not without RAID, though. that's still with RAID.

                                          I always assume when someone says without RAID they mean without hardware RAID. I think that was the correct assumption in this case.

                                          that's a really weird way to say that you want RAID.

                                          Do you want dinner?

                                          No

                                          Hey, where is my food?

                                          You said you didn't want dinner!

                                          I meant... I didn't want a salad.

                                          huh?

                                          I was thinking the same - if I see no mention of RAID, or a specific request for no RAID card, I'm pretty much assuming there is no RAID. I would never assume they are using software RAID - it's just no that common in the SMB world.

                                          And yet it is common enough that anyone mentioning building their own storage is almost assumed to be choosing ZFS specifically to do software RAID. To the extent that nearly every discussion in SW comes down to a complete assumption that you would disable hardware RAID and run software RAID instead.

                                          In some regards, it is completely ignored in the SMB. And in certain groups in the SMB it is so common as to be blanket assumed.

                                          Who uses ZFS? Is that really that common?

                                          Was it the creator of ZFS that murdered someone or is that another Linux technology? Can't remember.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @quicky2g
                                            last edited by

                                            @quicky2g said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @quicky2g said:

                                            @anonymous said:

                                            I have been thinking about this board:

                                            http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmd3h

                                            • Micro ATX
                                            • Supports up to 64GB of RAM.
                                            • Has RAID (I don't intent to use it)
                                            • OnBoard Ethernet 1 x 10/100/1000 Mbps
                                            • ONBOARD USB 3.0 HEADER(S)
                                            • 8 SATA 6 GB/S Connectors

                                            Why build a server without RAID?

                                            Software RAID and XenServer work very nicely together.

                                            That's not without RAID, though. that's still with RAID.

                                            I always assume when someone says without RAID they mean without hardware RAID. I think that was the correct assumption in this case.

                                            that's a really weird way to say that you want RAID.

                                            Do you want dinner?

                                            No

                                            Hey, where is my food?

                                            You said you didn't want dinner!

                                            I meant... I didn't want a salad.

                                            huh?

                                            I was thinking the same - if I see no mention of RAID, or a specific request for no RAID card, I'm pretty much assuming there is no RAID. I would never assume they are using software RAID - it's just no that common in the SMB world.

                                            And yet it is common enough that anyone mentioning building their own storage is almost assumed to be choosing ZFS specifically to do software RAID. To the extent that nearly every discussion in SW comes down to a complete assumption that you would disable hardware RAID and run software RAID instead.

                                            In some regards, it is completely ignored in the SMB. And in certain groups in the SMB it is so common as to be blanket assumed.

                                            Who uses ZFS? Is that really that common?

                                            Was it the creator of ZFS that murdered someone or is that another Linux technology? Can't remember.

                                            Wasn't that Mcafee?

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