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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said:

      Worked with no issues. Not even a beep.

      Now, I assuming if I had gone with a non-DELL controller, there would have been issues? Or can all cards read the same info on the disk? Is it a standard?

      I haven't heard of anyone actually trying this, but Dell just uses re-branded LSI controllers. Don't know how much firmware customization they've done, but I'd bet the drives could be moved between Dell and LSI controller cards.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @travisdh1
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        @travisdh1 said:

        I haven't heard of anyone actually trying this, but Dell just uses re-branded LSI controllers. Don't know how much firmware customization they've done, but I'd bet the drives could be moved between Dell and LSI controller cards.

        Yes this surely would go into the "don't try at home" category, I think.

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1 @BRRABill
          last edited by

          @BRRABill said:

          @travisdh1 said:

          I haven't heard of anyone actually trying this, but Dell just uses re-branded LSI controllers. Don't know how much firmware customization they've done, but I'd bet the drives could be moved between Dell and LSI controller cards.

          Yes this surely would go into the "don't try at home" category, I think.

          For sure.

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @BRRABill
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            @BRRABill said:

            @travisdh1 said:

            I haven't heard of anyone actually trying this, but Dell just uses re-branded LSI controllers. Don't know how much firmware customization they've done, but I'd bet the drives could be moved between Dell and LSI controller cards.

            Yes this surely would go into the "don't try at home work" category, I think.

            Fixed it for you.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @dafyre
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              @dafyre said:

              @BRRABill said:

              @travisdh1 said:

              I haven't heard of anyone actually trying this, but Dell just uses re-branded LSI controllers. Don't know how much firmware customization they've done, but I'd bet the drives could be moved between Dell and LSI controller cards.

              Yes this surely would go into the "don't try at home work" category, I think.

              Fixed it for you.

              I was about to say... more like "only" try this at home.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill
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                Oddly enough, when I do the same test on the same drives, on the "E" partition (which is located on the same RAID array as the "C" partition), I get the following results:

                Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 109.597 MB/s
                Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 104.111 MB/s
                Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 1.924 MB/s [ 469.7 IOPS]
                Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 1.498 MB/s [ 365.7 IOPS]
                Sequential Read (T= 1) : 106.960 MB/s
                Sequential Write (T= 1) : 105.491 MB/s
                Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 0.661 MB/s [ 161.4 IOPS]
                Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 1.243 MB/s [ 303.5 IOPS]

                Test : 1024 MiB [E: 52.6% (183.0/348.1 GiB)] (x5) [Interval=5 sec]
                Date : 2016/01/07 15:51:24
                OS : Windows Server 2012 R2 [6.3 Build 9600] (x64)

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill
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                  Interesting tidbit you may or may not know. (I am sure you do.)

                  While the H310 DOES support single drives non-RAID), the H710 does NOT. You can use a single drive by creating a single member RAID0 array.

                  Not that you wouldn't always use RAID in a server. Just thought that was interesting.

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    @BRRABill said:

                    Interesting tidbit you may or may not know. (I am sure you do.)

                    While the H310 DOES support single drives non-RAID), the H710 does NOT. You can use a single drive by creating a single member RAID0 array.

                    Not that you wouldn't always use RAID in a server. Just thought that was interesting.

                    Good to know with my predilection for software raid, in that specific usage case an H310 will be just fine should I need another HBA.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @travisdh1
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                      @travisdh1 said:

                      Good to know with my predilection for software raid, in that specific usage case an H310 will be just fine should I need another HBA.

                      After being a member here at ML, I have sworn off the H310.

                      Going to sell mine on eBay rapido!

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        @BRRABill said:

                        Interesting tidbit you may or may not know. (I am sure you do.)

                        While the H310 DOES support single drives non-RAID), the H710 does NOT. You can use a single drive by creating a single member RAID0 array.

                        Not that you wouldn't always use RAID in a server. Just thought that was interesting.

                        That's actually standard.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill said:

                          @travisdh1 said:

                          Good to know with my predilection for software raid, in that specific usage case an H310 will be just fine should I need another HBA.

                          After being a member here at ML, I have sworn off the H310.

                          Going to sell mine on eBay rapido!

                          It's perfectly good if you don't want any hardware RAID from the controller 😉

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by BRRABill

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            That's actually standard.

                            I figured.

                            Trying to help out the other rooks. 😉

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill
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                              The results on my new EDGE SSD (from xByte) Raid 1 array:

                              • MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]

                              • KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

                                Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 1185.227 MB/s
                                Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 488.470 MB/s
                                Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 387.262 MB/s [ 94546.4 IOPS]
                                Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 95.829 MB/s [ 23395.8 IOPS]
                                Sequential Read (T= 1) : 591.847 MB/s
                                Sequential Write (T= 1) : 498.278 MB/s
                                Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 28.838 MB/s [ 7040.5 IOPS]
                                Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 42.498 MB/s [ 10375.5 IOPS]

                                Test : 1024 MiB [F: 0.0% (0.1/293.0 GiB)] (x5) [Interval=5 sec]
                                Date : 2016/01/08 18:22:16
                                OS : Windows Server 2012 R2 [6.3 Build 9600] (x64)

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill
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                                This is good, right? 😉

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  Another H710 question...

                                  There are two areas I have questions on.

                                  One is Read Policy.
                                  The SATA array is set to "No Read Ahead"
                                  The SSD array is set to "Adaptive Read Ahead"

                                  One is Write Policy.
                                  The SATA array is set to "Write Through"
                                  The SSD array is set to "Write Back"

                                  Are these settings determined by the type of disk?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    I'm not sure if it detects and changes based on that or not.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      I'm not sure if it detects and changes based on that or not.

                                      Is it possible those settings were set by the H310 and just migrated to the H710?

                                      What SHOULD the settings be? What do they even mean?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                        @BRRABill said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        I'm not sure if it detects and changes based on that or not.

                                        Is it possible those settings were set by the H310 and just migrated to the H710?

                                        If you swapped the disks from one to the other, absolutely. Did you have to recreate the RAID arrays?

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