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      Alex Sage @dafyre
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      @dafyre They don't. Unmanaged. I am going to use Unitrends Free to S3

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        That's too bad. But that would explain why it isn't for production. Restores of a 2TB server would take quite a while. The maximum pipe speed appears to be 100Mb/s.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          That would be a 45 hour download to get a full backup of the full space back if you had to do a full restore of the full storage amount assuming you were able to hold a full 100Mb/s the entire time, which you can't. More realistically you'd be looking at half a week to a week to restore a full system.

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            Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller How would you do a 2TB restore when the free version only allows 1TB?

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              Alex Sage
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              At the very high end I would have 160GB, likely much less.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                @anonymous said:

                @scottalanmiller How would you do a 2TB restore when the free version only allows 1TB?

                That's a UT limitation. So in your case you can't even back the whole thing up 🙂

                But as a general issue with the platform, if you use XO to do your backups for example, you'd have to wait nearly a week to restore.

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                  Alex Sage
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  platform, if you use XO to do your backups for example, you'd have to wait nearly a week to restore.

                  Not having console access and the ability to mount an ISO is a big deal =/

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                    scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                    @anonymous said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    platform, if you use XO to do your backups for example, you'd have to wait nearly a week to restore.

                    Not having console access is a big deal =/

                    Huge.

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                      dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @anonymous said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      platform, if you use XO to do your backups for example, you'd have to wait nearly a week to restore.

                      Not having console access is a big deal =/

                      Huge.

                      Unless you are going to use XenServer.... Then you can create your own ISO repository for XS and then upload your isos into that folder.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                        @dafyre said:

                        Unless you are going to use XenServer.... Then you can create your own ISO repository for XS and then upload your isos into that folder.

                        Sure, but what if something goes wrong with XS?

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                          dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @dafyre said:

                          Unless you are going to use XenServer.... Then you can create your own ISO repository for XS and then upload your isos into that folder.

                          Sure, but what if something goes wrong with XS?

                          That's what their tech support is for. 🙂

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                            scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                            @dafyre said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @dafyre said:

                            Unless you are going to use XenServer.... Then you can create your own ISO repository for XS and then upload your isos into that folder.

                            Sure, but what if something goes wrong with XS?

                            That's what their tech support is for. 🙂

                            Is it? I mean that honestly. Do they have XS experts that can recover a system if things go south? Or do they just rebuild it and blow away your data? Typically these companies can only do the latter.

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                              dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @dafyre said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @dafyre said:

                              Unless you are going to use XenServer.... Then you can create your own ISO repository for XS and then upload your isos into that folder.

                              Sure, but what if something goes wrong with XS?

                              That's what their tech support is for. 🙂

                              Is it? I mean that honestly. Do they have XS experts that can recover a system if things go south? Or do they just rebuild it and blow away your data? Typically these companies can only do the latter.

                              They can look and see why it ain't booting. But you do have a point. it is odd that their parent company (OVH) offers KVMoIP.

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                                dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @dafyre said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @dafyre said:

                                Unless you are going to use XenServer.... Then you can create your own ISO repository for XS and then upload your isos into that folder.

                                Sure, but what if something goes wrong with XS?

                                That's what their tech support is for. 🙂

                                Is it? I mean that honestly. Do they have XS experts that can recover a system if things go south? Or do they just rebuild it and blow away your data? Typically these companies can only do the latter.

                                I actually read up a bit, and their support team is pretty much only there to see why you A) don't have an internet connection, or B) Your hardware aint' booting.

                                Anything else is your responsibility, pretty much.

                                I bit the bullet... this could save my Pops a ton of money.
                                He's hosting like 5 domains with GoDaddy, lol. He has some probems with a few of the sites being super slow a lot of times.

                                It's worth the $38 it took to get us set up. We went with the KS-4B, I think... $24 / month.

                                We'll see if we like it or not.

                                @anonymous -- You still liking yours? I just got my XenServer install set up as well.

                                And I think @anonymous asked a good question... What should we do to secure it? Only allow access by specific IPs? (My home IP is static, so that is easily doable).

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                                  stacksofplates @dafyre
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                                  @dafyre said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @dafyre said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @dafyre said:

                                  Unless you are going to use XenServer.... Then you can create your own ISO repository for XS and then upload your isos into that folder.

                                  Sure, but what if something goes wrong with XS?

                                  That's what their tech support is for. 🙂

                                  Is it? I mean that honestly. Do they have XS experts that can recover a system if things go south? Or do they just rebuild it and blow away your data? Typically these companies can only do the latter.

                                  I actually read up a bit, and their support team is pretty much only there to see why you A) don't have an internet connection, or B) Your hardware aint' booting.

                                  Anything else is your responsibility, pretty much.

                                  I bit the bullet... this could save my Pops a ton of money.
                                  He's hosting like 5 domains with GoDaddy, lol. He has some probems with a few of the sites being super slow a lot of times.

                                  It's worth the $38 it took to get us set up. We went with the KS-4B, I think... $24 / month.

                                  We'll see if we like it or not.

                                  @anonymous -- You still liking yours? I just got my XenServer install set up as well.

                                  And I think @anonymous asked a good question... What should we do to secure it? Only allow access by specific IPs? (My home IP is static, so that is easily doable).

                                  You could do 2FA with keys only.

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                                    scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                    @dafyre $24/mo for five domains? Why not A Small Orange or someone like that for $5/mo and a lot less effort of maintenance?

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                                      dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @dafyre $24/mo for five domains? Why not A Small Orange or someone like that for $5/mo and a lot less effort of maintenance?

                                      Mainly because I want a XenServer, lol.

                                      But there are actually more than 5. Those are just the ones I can recall right off the bat.

                                      Does Vultur / ASO act as domain registrars as well?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                        @dafyre said:

                                        Does Vultur / ASO act as domain registrars as well?

                                        No.

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates
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                                          You could also get a larger server from vultr and containerize each one with an nginx reverse proxy.

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre
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                                            I'm mainly doing it just to get some experience with XenServer. That's the only Hypervisor I don't get to play with on a regular basis. I'll keep it a month or two and let it go, most likely.... This will help me to decide if I want to switch my home server to XenServer (it'd be a lot of effort at the moment).

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