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      Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      Keep in mind it looks like they don't offer IPv4. That helps to keep the price down but also limits usefulness.

      In what way?

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        scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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        @anonymous said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        Their top end "server" has matching specs to my laptop.

        Right, but it's fully hosted. They pay for power, cooling, etc.

        I'm not saying that it is bad. Only that it isn't a windfall of awesome. It seems like a reasonable product at a reasonable price.

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          scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
          last edited by

          @anonymous said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          Keep in mind it looks like they don't offer IPv4. That helps to keep the price down but also limits usefulness.

          In what way?

          How does it limit usefulness? It limits you to connecting to people that are on IPv6.

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            Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller Doh! Z and X are close on the keyboard. My bad.

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              Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              ow does it limit usefulness? It limits you to connecting to people that are on IPv6.

              Could I use a cheap Digital Ocean droplet to pass along traffic?

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                scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                @anonymous said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                ow does it limit usefulness? It limits you to connecting to people that are on IPv6.

                Could I use a cheap Digital Ocean droplet to pass along traffic?

                Build an IPv4 to IPv6 proxy? Yes, that should work. Only one IP for all of your 64 VMs, though, which is a little limiting.

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                  dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  "servers". The term is used loosely. Those have the specs of whitebox desktops.

                  Lots of places offer stuff like this for low end hardware. Do the math, it's super easy to offer the kind of hardware they mention for that price. They have a lot of profit margin built in there.

                  Their KS-4 = $336 per year ($28 per month). Lifetime hardware warranty

                  A similar spec tower from Newegg is $700 + Power, Power Redundancy, Internet, Internet Redundancy, HVAC, HVAC redundancy + 3 year warranty.

                  For a business that already has a server room with redundant power, cooling, and internet, this may not make much sense. For somebody who wants to do their own server management and/or lab environment, I am having a hard time seeing where the KS-4 is a bad deal.

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                    scottalanmiller
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                    Didn't say that it was a bad deal, just that it is not surprising that they can do it. The hardware is very cheap and the price is reasonable. They are making plenty of profit on this stuff but not charging an arm and a leg.

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                      dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Didn't say that it was a bad deal, just that it is not surprising that they can do it. The hardware is very cheap and the price is reasonable. They are making plenty of profit on this stuff but not charging an arm and a leg.

                      Ah ok. I must have read something into that then. I wonder if they have any American Data Centers.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Bad math, deleted my post 🙂

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                          dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Bad math, deleted my post 🙂

                          While I was reading it even, lol.

                          One thing to definitely ask about is the setup fee. Most places will only charge you that fee once from the few places I have checked and asked.

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                            scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                            @dafyre said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Bad math, deleted my post 🙂

                            While I was reading it even, lol.

                            One thing to definitely ask about is the setup fee. Most places will only charge you that fee once from the few places I have checked and asked.

                            Likely once per server. They need that to pay the bills.

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                              scottalanmiller
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                              They appear to be Canadian. I can't find mention of their locations except that North America and Europe are mentioned and someone mentioned "not Belgium."

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                                Alex Sage
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                                No USA Locations - Beauharnois, Canada

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                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  We used to colo in a datacenter that also did dedicated servers like this. White box desktops with their cases open and fans blowing on them. It was pretty scary seeing what was in the other half of the facility.

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                                    scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                                    @anonymous said:

                                    No USA Locations - Beauharnois, Canada

                                    That is partially how they keep the price down. Hosting is cheaper in Canada. Top tier server hosting, the absolute best in the country, tops out at $70CDN per U. You can often get that down to around $40 USD if you hunt for deals.

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                                      dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      We used to colo in a datacenter that also did dedicated servers like this. White box desktops with their cases open and fans blowing on them. It was pretty scary seeing what was in the other half of the facility.

                                      Are you sure that datacenter isn't where the C@C guys run their stuff? lol.

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                                        scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                        @dafyre said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        We used to colo in a datacenter that also did dedicated servers like this. White box desktops with their cases open and fans blowing on them. It was pretty scary seeing what was in the other half of the facility.

                                        Are you sure that datacenter isn't where the C@C guys run their stuff? lol.

                                        It was in the US or else I'd be suspicious.

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                                          dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @anonymous said:

                                          No USA Locations - Beauharnois, Canada

                                          That is partially how they keep the price down. Hosting is cheaper in Canada. Top tier server hosting, the absolute best in the country, tops out at $70CDN per U. You can often get that down to around $40 USD if you hunt for deals.

                                          Their parent company, OVH starts at ~$70/month for some nice systems too. I'm going to keep these guys on my radar though. If I come across some extra money, I'm going to spin up a XenServer with them.

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                                            Alex Sage @dafyre
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                                            @dafyre said:

                                            Are you sure that datacenter isn't where the C@C guys run their stuff? lol.

                                            Thought did cross my mind....

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