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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      @LAH3385 said:

      @Dashrender
      The cluster storage space is configured with starWind vSAN. I gave it a good 1TB (1,0001GB)
      0_1451483902650_upload-690cc91f-b6e4-4b0c-b73c-d818270f9a9f

      We all missed what this graphic is actually showing - it shows that your Cluster Volume is only 1 GB, not 1 TB.

      Yep. Comma or period is a big difference all right!

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        LAH3385 @Dashrender
        last edited by LAH3385

        @Dashrender

        LOL!!!! I am pretty sure it is a comma

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @travisdh1
          last edited by

          @travisdh1 said:

          @Dashrender said:

          @LAH3385 said:

          @Dashrender
          The cluster storage space is configured with starWind vSAN. I gave it a good 1TB (1,0001GB)
          0_1451483902650_upload-690cc91f-b6e4-4b0c-b73c-d818270f9a9f

          We all missed what this graphic is actually showing - it shows that your Cluster Volume is only 1 GB, not 1 TB.

          Yep. Comma or period is a big difference all right!

          Drat, you quoted me before I corrected my post - please see correction.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @LAH3385
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            @LAH3385 said:

            @Dashrender

            LOL!!!! I am pretty sure it is a comma

            Yeah, so the Cluster Volume is fine, it's the partition on the cluster that's to small.

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              LAH3385 @Dashrender
              last edited by LAH3385

              @Dashrender
              Actually you were right! Not with the comma part, but the problem is I gave it 1TB size but linked it to 1GB partition. I didn't show the resource down belong it it only show 883MB out of 1GB

              Now it pointed to 1TB partition so it is working now.
              0_1451492055336_upload-7a094432-1227-4de5-b129-93cfbde4237e

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                Yeah, when MS stopped showing a real size comparison of partitions vs the whole volume, it became even more important to full read the stats, not just trust the graphic. If the graphic would have shown this tiny slice it would have been obvious that the slice was to small to use.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
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                  So considering that.. where was your VM actually sitting? How large is/was your VM?

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                    LAH3385 @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender
                    currently 125GB (starting size) on Disk 3 of 1TB.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      You were trying to do live migrations before - and it seemed like you had at least limited success - I'm wondering where the VM files where and how that happened?

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                        LAH3385 @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender
                        previously it failed because of Kerboros credential. After giving it delegate rights the live migration works.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @LAH3385
                          last edited by

                          @LAH3385 said:

                          @Dashrender
                          previously it failed because of Kerboros credential. After giving it delegate rights the live migration works.

                          even though the storage space was to small?

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                            LAH3385 @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender
                            yes. but previously I set it with 512MB which fit into the 1GB storage

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @LAH3385
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                              @LAH3385 said:

                              @Dashrender
                              yes. but previously I set it with 512MB which fit into the 1GB storage

                              I'm confused - you set what to 512 MB? The PageFile for the VM? so the VM itself doesn't have to be on the shared storage?

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                                LAH3385 @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender
                                I am really new to the whole Hyper-V stuff so I don't really understand what you are implying.

                                The 512MB is the RAM memory. I do not understand how is that matter at all but it seem it matter. I might be on the wrong universe here but somehow it is working and I am happy.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  I'm just trying to understand how it works.

                                  I would assume to get HA with Solarwinds you'd have to have the VM itself on the Clustered Shared Storage (CSS). But your CSS was only 1 GB, significantly smaller than the size of your VM (Assuming a 40 GB Windows VM).

                                  You were doing a live migration that was giving you some sort of sorta success. I wonder if this was because you were doing a share nothing live migration, and not a real failover migration. By real failover I mean - a host died and the VM just kept on running on the other server. But maybe you weren't going for that kind of test.

                                  Then after that you had the error talking about not having enough space (Event ID 21502 - it needed 2 GB and your storage was only 1 GB), so I'm really confused what was happening there. Since your VM could never have been running inside the CSS at 2 GB, why was the system even looking at the drive?

                                  These are just thinking questions - ones that we probably won't get answers to.

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                                    LAH3385 @Dashrender
                                    last edited by LAH3385

                                    @Dashrender

                                    Okay.. that does clear up the confusion on my side. The Live Migration I performed is real Live Migration (I tested it by restart the main server to force VM to shutdown).

                                    1. When I first create the HA VM I did not install any operating system which means there is only HDD/BIOS and probably took up no more than couple MB. It is like a barebone machine with only BIOS. That should explain how I managed to do it with 1GB space.
                                    2. After the Live Migration is correctly configured I tried to install OS but failed and returned with not enough storage error (windows PE error). I thought I messed up something so I start fresh again (remove and delete VM), and this time I attach Windows Server ISO along with the configuration wizard. Which is why it keeps failing because the VM knows it does not have enough resources to properly install anything.
                                    3. How did I get 1GB to begin with? It all started back in Starwind vSAN console. I configured 3 disks (storage1/storage2/witness). Storage1 has 1,000GB. Storage2 has 1GB, Witness has 200GB. The mistakes happens with I attach the drives to the server via iscsi. I must have skipped a step somewhere and thought I already did it thus the iscsi was incorrectly configured.

                                    This is the screenshot of the iscsi drives (before fix) Noticed the Disk 3 with 1GB formated and 1TB unallocated space? That's how I got 1GB but shows 1TB.
                                    0_1451484270770_upload-6b487289-6534-4f47-a845-e261a73a770b

                                    This is the screeshot of the iscsi drives (after fixed)
                                    0_1451594405433_upload-84ff46c4-d02d-4c02-bd3f-50f5df505138

                                    If you need help configure your servers feel free to ask anything. Links belows are what I used for configured the HA servers
                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGgqG8oEpBQ
                                    sensiblecyber.com/configuring-a-2-node-cluster-with-starwind-native-san-for-hyper-v/
                                    http://www.virtualizationadmin.com/articles-tutorials/microsoft-hyper-v-articles/general/diagnosing-live-migration-failures-part2.html
                                    http://www.hyper-v.nu/archives/pnoorderijk/2013/03/microsoft-virtual-system-migration-serviceservice-is-missing/

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                                    • KOOLERK
                                      KOOLER Vendor @LAH3385
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                                      @LAH3385 said:

                                      EDIT: Just to be clear when I first started the troubleshooting I had 1 problem. After the first problem cleared I encountered with the second problem. So if you skim through the thread you may get confused very quickly.

                                      I have been trying to configure a vSAN by StarWind with 2 node for the past weeks. With multiple guides and help from the community, still I cannot test LIVE MIGRATION. Quick Migration does works so I do not quite understand Why?

                                      note: Quick Migration works. Force migration via restarting the server works. Live Migration failed confused

                                      **> From my initial research I know the cause is probably something to do with setting or naming. Something is not identical and is causing the failure between the node. I configure the server mirroring each other from scratch and still the problem exist. **

                                      Here are some screenshots. [ ... ]

                                      @LAH3385 Sorry for being late on party - I was quite busy with closing our year of 2015 to spend time with MangoHeads 😉 Either way there's no point to be shy - you know my e-mail address so there's an easy way to get your questions answered. For now I'm brining in StarWind engineers to see what's up with your case as I'm still head over heals till January 15th, 2016.

                                      @scottalanmiller Thanks for letting me know !! 😉

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                                        original_anvil Vendor @LAH3385
                                        last edited by original_anvil

                                        Hi guys!
                                        @scottalanmiller , thanks for bringing me in
                                        @LAH3385 on my experience that happens due to some not obvious, but really tiny misconfiguration. Like wrong partitioning, not configured MPIO, etc.
                                        It's not like I do want to highjack this thread, but it would be much easier for me to resolve this if we could jump on the remote session. Is that actually possible? If so, then let's schedule one (email me to [email protected]) and me or you, or both of us gonna post an update for the community after. Do we have a deal?:)

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
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                                          I thought the issue was resolved?

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                                            original_anvil Vendor @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            I thought the issue was resolved?

                                            Well, I am responsible for customer care, so I want to be completely sure 🙂

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