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    • JColeKenJ
      JColeKen Vendor @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch Around $3,500-$4,000, not including the automatic transfer switch.

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      • art_of_shredA
        art_of_shred Banned @JColeKen
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        @JColeKen said:

        @JaredBusch Around $3,500-$4,000, not including the automatic transfer switch.

        For 11kW?? Wow. I would have expected a bit more for that.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @art_of_shred
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          @art_of_shred said:

          Coffee break @ Eaton offices?

          I'm more curious as to how they are as a group handling questions. Huddled in a conference room? πŸ™‚

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @art_of_shred
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            @art_of_shred said:

            @JColeKen said:

            @JaredBusch Around $3,500-$4,000, not including the automatic transfer switch.

            For 11kW?? Wow. I would have expected a bit more for that.

            Maybe installation is an extra $7,723.69 ?

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            • art_of_shredA
              art_of_shred Banned @BRRABill
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              @BRRABill said:

              @art_of_shred said:

              Coffee break @ Eaton offices?

              I'm more curious as to how they are as a group handling questions. Huddled in a conference room? πŸ™‚

              "Who is this Jared guy, and how much should we tell him?"

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @windso
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                @windso said:

                @JColeKen @BRRABill @mdecamp @gbeyhaut - Yes, the Panther bandwagon is alive and kicking. We do the Dab whenever we close a sale... It's contagious.

                I forwarded the video (and subsequent posting) of Jerry Richardson doing the DAB to my daughter's soccer team. I love the message.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @ciwoodhouse
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                  @ciwoodhouse said:

                  @BRRABill Here's the gist:
                  β€’ You can purchase up to three times the VA you are trading in! The new Eaton unit can be a smaller VA rating than the old UPS too.
                  β€’ Your discount is for the purchase of the new Eaton UPS only and not the old UPS traded in
                  β€’ Return shipping labels will be provided to you to send the old UPS(s) back for disposal – free of charge

                  It is a set discount amount, like 10% or whatever?

                  For me, a lot of the allure of that program is just getting rid of the old UPSes in an environmentally friendly way.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @dafyre
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                    @dafyre said:

                    @art_of_shred said:

                    @JColeKen said:

                    @JaredBusch Around $3,500-$4,000, not including the automatic transfer switch.

                    For 11kW?? Wow. I would have expected a bit more for that.

                    Maybe installation is an extra $7,723.69 ?

                    kW not K.

                    πŸ™‚

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @JColeKen
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                      @JColeKen said:

                      @JaredBusch Around $3,500-$4,000, not including the automatic transfer switch.

                      Oh... man that is inexpensive... might need to look at that in the near future. I've learned so much from this AMA.

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                      • JColeKenJ
                        JColeKen Vendor @dafyre
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                        @dafyre Our offering is a liquid propane or natural gas generator, so no diesel. The electrical wiring, installation, and the ATS would be additional costs.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver
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                          Explain it like I am 5. How do you correctly calculate the power usage of a 3-phase PDU? I have been wrestling with this and would really love a simple calculator or spreadsheet or something.

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                          • mollyM
                            molly Vendor @art_of_shred
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                            @art_of_shred I think everyone just left the techy questions to @JColeKen to fend for himself πŸ™‚ Don't eat him alive!

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill
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                              I recently started a discussion here on ML about why UPS companies like to always recommend "server-grade" UPS for servers, even though they might not really need it.

                              What is your feeling on this, and is there any times you think a desktop level UPS might be OK for some server applications? (As the included thread seems to lean in that direction.)

                              http://mangolassi.it/topic/6865/server-ups-recommendations/2

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                              • art_of_shredA
                                art_of_shred Banned @coliver
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                                @coliver said:

                                @JColeKen said:

                                @JaredBusch Around $3,500-$4,000, not including the automatic transfer switch.

                                Oh... man that is inexpensive... might need to look at that in the near future. I've learned so much from this AMA.

                                Yeah, the wheels are turning in my head, now. Hmm....

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                                • mollyM
                                  molly Vendor @Nic
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                                  @Nic One of the things Eaton is most excited about is CI and hyper CI...we've made a lot of headway with others in the industry to try to make lives of IT pros easier and make their solutions more reliable. http://powerquality.eaton.com/About-Us/Alliances/default.asp

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                                  • art_of_shredA
                                    art_of_shred Banned @molly
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                                    @molly said:

                                    @art_of_shred I think everyone just left the techy questions to @JColeKen to fend for himself πŸ™‚ Don't eat him alive!

                                    You can feel free to answer my line conditioner question... πŸ™‚

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                                    • mollyM
                                      molly Vendor @art_of_shred
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                                      @art_of_shred If I felt I adequately could, I would! 😁 I have come to terms that I'm no IT pro.

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                                      • gbeyhautG
                                        gbeyhaut @BRRABill
                                        last edited by gbeyhaut

                                        @BRRABill We tested that theory on a different forum with a user base. We provided an β€œoff-line” UPS in their typical environments. Communications is really what makes a UPS β€œserver grade”. So if being able to remotely shutdown (or with integration of a hypervisor) migrate VM’s to a safe host (a server that is not on battery), which is usually the case, we would recommend sticking with something that talks to you and lets you take actions or have those actions preemptively ready to go.

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                                        • art_of_shredA
                                          art_of_shred Banned @molly
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                                          @molly It's really an electrician's question. I'm just curious if anyone has an informed answer for it.

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                                          • JColeKenJ
                                            JColeKen Vendor @BRRABill
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                                            @BRRABill There are a few things that go into it. One is the level of protection...that is typically the most important. Others included extended battery capability and network capability (many more, just naming a few). In some cases you may only require a certain level of protection and limited communication/extended run capability, so in those cases you'd be fine running a lower end UPS (less feature rich). But in general,we try to make it easy for someone off the street that knows nothing about UPS to be able to purchase protection for their "servers" and make sure that offering will provide them everything they would be required.

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