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    windows server 2008 R2 SP1 license (physical VS virtual)

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    • brianlittlejohnB
      brianlittlejohn
      last edited by

      If you have a Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise license already, you can run 4 VMs with it.

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      • IT-ADMINI
        IT-ADMIN
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        actually i do not have any license, i'm planning to buy one, and i want to deploy it in 2 VM, what is the best option??

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        • coliverC
          coliver
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          Server 2012 R2 Standard will allow you to deploy two VMs on top of your hardware. Providing you aren't using the host for any tasks except Hyper-V.

          This also applies to any hypervisor be in Xen, ESXi, Hyper-V, etc.

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          • brianlittlejohnB
            brianlittlejohn @IT-ADMIN
            last edited by

            @IT-ADMIN Are you looking at VL? IF so you cant buy 2008 anymore. You will have to buy 2012R2 which will give you 2vms for the host the license is applied to. You can use 2008 for both of those VMs if you want with a VL's downgrade rights.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @coliver
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              @coliver said:

              Server 2012 R2 Standard will allow you to deploy two VMs on top of your hardware. Providing you aren't using the host for any tasks except Hyper-V.

              This also applies to any hypervisor be in Xen, ESXi, Hyper-V, etc.

              You can word this in an easier way.... you can use two VMs on top of any hypervisor solution. Two get to be used, no matter how they are labelled or deployed.

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              • IT-ADMINI
                IT-ADMIN
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                if we buy server 2012 R2 standard, can we install on it SQL Server 2000 ?? because we have an application that is not compatible with SQL server above than 2000 ??

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                  LAH3385
                  last edited by LAH3385

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  SQL Server 2000

                  This is not my realm but this should answer your questions
                  https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa175274(v=sql.80).aspx

                  Answer is "maybe" to "no". Some services that SQL server 2k utilize may not be available in 2008-2012.

                  EDIT: wrong link. 😛

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    actually i do not have any license, i'm planning to buy one, and i want to deploy it in 2 VM, what is the best option??

                    Why would you buy old versions? Buy current. Don't invest in technical debt.

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                      LAH3385 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      actually i do not have any license, i'm planning to buy one, and i want to deploy it in 2 VM, what is the best option??

                      Why would you buy old versions? Buy current. Don't invest in technical debt.

                      My guess would be budget or CALs.
                      Otherwise 2012 R2 with SA (software assurance) is the way to go.

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                      • IT-ADMINI
                        IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        actually i do not have any license, i'm planning to buy one, and i want to deploy it in 2 VM, what is the best option??

                        Why would you buy old versions? Buy current. Don't invest in technical debt.

                        compatibility issue as i said before, i have an application that is using SQL SERVER 2000, does 2012 R2 support SQL 2000??

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @IT-ADMIN
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                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          actually i do not have any license, i'm planning to buy one, and i want to deploy it in 2 VM, what is the best option??

                          Why would you buy old versions? Buy current. Don't invest in technical debt.

                          compatibility issue as i said before, i have an application that is using SQL SERVER 2000, does 2012 R2 support SQL 2000??

                          We already know the the place where @IT-ADMIN is does not actually care about licensing.

                          That said, to answer the question. If you actually purchase a standard Server 2012 R2 license via the Microsoft Volume Licensing program, you are given the right (called downgrade rights) to install Server 2008 R2 or Server 2012 instead of Server 2012 R2. Possibly Server 2008, but I have never checked that.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                            last edited by

                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            actually i do not have any license, i'm planning to buy one, and i want to deploy it in 2 VM, what is the best option??

                            Why would you buy old versions? Buy current. Don't invest in technical debt.

                            compatibility issue as i said before, i have an application that is using SQL SERVER 2000, does 2012 R2 support SQL 2000??

                            But you BUY current and deploy old. I'm not questioning why you are deploying old licenses, I'm questioning why you are buying old ones.

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                            • IT-ADMINI
                              IT-ADMIN @LAH3385
                              last edited by

                              @LAH3385 said:

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              SQL Server 2000

                              This is not my realm but this should answer your questions
                              https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa175274(v=sql.80).aspx

                              Answer is "maybe" to "no". Some services that SQL server 2k utilize may not be available in 2008-2012.

                              EDIT: wrong link. 😛

                              thanks for the link, but i think it is not accurate because they didn't mention server 2008 as compatible OS whereas i'm using it

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                last edited by

                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                thanks for the link, but i think it is not accurate because they didn't mention server 2008 as compatible OS whereas i'm using it

                                That you are using it does not imply that it is fully compatible or supported.

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                                • IT-ADMINI
                                  IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  thanks for the link, but i think it is not accurate because they didn't mention server 2008 as compatible OS whereas i'm using it

                                  That you are using it does not imply that it is fully compatible or supported.

                                  i see your point

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    Will likely work, there might be bits that don't that you have not tested or tried. Or it might be unreliable. Hard to say. Might be fine and just not supported or tested.

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                                      IT-ADMIN @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch said:

                                      We already know the the place where @IT-ADMIN is does not actually care about licensing.

                                      finally after i show the advantage of virtualization to the management especially after that hardware issue i had few days ago, i finally convince them to buy 2 windows server licenses because i told them that for this project to be successful it is a must we have windows server licences and they agreed

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                        last edited by

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        @JaredBusch said:

                                        We already know the the place where @IT-ADMIN is does not actually care about licensing.

                                        finally after i show the advantage of virtualization to the management especially after that hardware issue i had few days ago, i finally convince them to buy 2 windows server licenses because i told them that for this project to be successful it is a must we have windows server licences and they agreed

                                        That's great! Major progress in what was actually a pretty short time period (as these things go.)

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          Are you getting to virtualize now, too? Or just properly licensed Windows?

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                                            LAH3385 @scottalanmiller
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                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            i want to know is there any difference btw the price of the license for physical machine or virtual machine, we have 2 physical server DELL Poweredge T310, i want to take one of them and host in it 2 VM, so now i'm wondering if the license for a VM is cheaper than the one for physical machine

                                            He mentioned in OP that he wants to go VM.

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