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    • dafyreD
      dafyre
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      I found a guide that, from what I can tell should work. I haven't actually tried this myself, so YMMV...

      http://ryanmangansitblog.com/2013/10/30/deploying-a-rdsh-server-in-a-workgroup-rds-2012-r2/

      Give it a whirl and let us know how it goes! Backups before starting this procedure are highly advisable, lol.

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      • brianlittlejohnB
        brianlittlejohn
        last edited by

        You will also need Remote Desktop Server Licenses if you are using RDS for anything but Admin on the server.

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          flomer @dafyre
          last edited by

          @dafyre Thanks, I will read it and give it a try!

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            flomer @brianlittlejohn
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            @brianlittlejohn So, I can't use the 5 CALs for this?

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
              last edited by

              Unless MS changed something a domain should not be needed.

              The two RDS sessions that are included are only allowed to be used to manage the server, not run apps remotely on the server. You will have to purchase an RDS license per person who will access the server.

              You only need a connection broker if you are publishing the server to the internet, and often not even then.

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              • brianlittlejohnB
                brianlittlejohn @flomer
                last edited by

                @flomer said:

                @brianlittlejohn So, I can't use the 5 CALs for this?

                You need the CALs as well.

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                  flomer @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender Hm. I am confused now. We have several servers i n our lab, and both the administrator and at least one other user is able to use RDP, but I (think) only two sessions at any one time.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @flomer
                    last edited by

                    @flomer said:

                    @brianlittlejohn So, I can't use the 5 CALs for this?

                    Those are good only one of the licenses you need. You will need a user windows server cal and RDS cal for every user who will connect.

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                    • brianlittlejohnB
                      brianlittlejohn @flomer
                      last edited by

                      @flomer said:

                      @Dashrender Hm. I am confused now. We have several servers i n our lab, and both the administrator and at least one other user is able to use RDP, but I (think) only two sessions at any one time.

                      The two included are for Server Management only. If you run apps on it for users you have to buy RDS Licenses as well.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @flomer
                        last edited by

                        @flomer said:

                        @Dashrender Hm. I am confused now. We have several servers i n our lab, and both the administrator and at least one other user is able to use RDP, but I (think) only two sessions at any one time.

                        Sure, Microsoft doesn't stop you, you can do whatever you want with those two sessions, but not legally.

                        License wise you have to buy RDS for everyone running an app on the server.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @flomer
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                          @flomer said:

                          @brianlittlejohn So, I can't use the 5 CALs for this?

                          You can't use them ALONE for this.

                          • You can't use the "two" included access licenses for users, those can only be used for administration.
                          • You must have a Server CAL for every user that will access the system. (This is the 5 CALs you bought.)
                          • You must have an RDS CAL additionally for every user. (For at least 5 more of a different type.)

                          So you have useful CALs, you didn't waste that money. You just don't have everything that you need yet.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @flomer
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                            @flomer said:

                            @Dashrender Hm. I am confused now. We have several servers i n our lab, and both the administrator and at least one other user is able to use RDP, but I (think) only two sessions at any one time.

                            If that other user is not an admin, technically it is a license violation. If you are both admins and all you are doing is admining the system, the two are okay.

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                              flomer @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller OK, I am beginning to understand now. But, what can one use the 5 CALs for if you in addition need the 5 RDS licenses? What is their intended use?

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                              • brianlittlejohnB
                                brianlittlejohn @flomer
                                last edited by

                                @flomer You need a CAL for every user (or device) accessing anything from a Windows Server in your organization. Remote Desktop Services is a specialty licensed service ontop of Windows Server.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @flomer
                                  last edited by

                                  @flomer said:

                                  @scottalanmiller OK, I am beginning to understand now. But, what can one use the 5 CALs for if you in addition need the 5 RDS licenses? What is their intended use?

                                  Server CALs (what you have now) give you the right to use server resources of any type. You need them for using the server, plain and simple. You need them for authenticating, looking at web pages, anything. They do not grant access to the desktop of the server, only to generic server resources.

                                  RDS CALs are remote access licenses. They are needed if you want users to not just access server resources but to access the server desktop through RDP, VNC or similar protocols.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @brianlittlejohn
                                    last edited by

                                    @brianlittlejohn said:

                                    @flomer You need a CAL for every user (or device) accessing anything from a Windows Server in your organization. Remote Desktop Services is a specialty licensed service ontop of Windows Server.

                                    Specifically they allow you yo use DNS, file sharing, authentication, etc. As Scott said.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @brianlittlejohn said:

                                      @flomer You need a CAL for every user (or device) accessing anything from a Windows Server in your organization. Remote Desktop Services is a specialty licensed service ontop of Windows Server.

                                      Specifically they allow you yo use DNS, file sharing, authentication, etc. As Scott said.

                                      Exactly. Plus Active Directory, applications running on top of Windows, etc.

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                                        flomer @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller So, what exactly can one use Windows Server 2012 R2 Standard for right after installing it and just applying the license that comes along with it? I'm trying to understand what is possible without additional licenses, as I'm unsure right now...

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @flomer
                                          last edited by JaredBusch

                                          @flomer said:

                                          @scottalanmiller So, what exactly can one use Windows Server 2012 R2 Standard for right after installing it and just applying the license that comes along with it? I'm trying to understand what is possible without additional licenses, as I'm unsure right now...

                                          You cannot use it for anything that concerns a user connecting to it for a service. AD, DNS, DHCP, File shares, etc.

                                          You can use it all you want to run a program that does its own thing without letting a user connect in form another device.

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                                          • brianlittlejohnB
                                            brianlittlejohn @flomer
                                            last edited by

                                            @flomer Without CALs, very little legally. WIth CALs, anything the server can provide WEB, DHCP, DNS, FILESERVER, AD, etc. except Desktop Services, which are specially licensed.

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