Wi-Fi recommendations for a brand new warehouse / production facility?
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@art_of_shred said:
@brianlittlejohn I think the major concern is for the use of handheld inventory scanners. There will be some web browsing and cell phone use, but that isn't the primary use. I would think no more than 5-6 scanners?
Then you probably don't have to worry too much outside of coverage.
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@coliver said:
I think these would be a good fit for this. https://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-ap-ac-pro/
Those are great but only if we have AC gear in use or will in the reasonable future. Likely AC ends up being overkill. Might do find with just N gear, at least for now.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@art_of_shred said:
- How many AP's would this space require? What is the realistic range (3D) and also ease of management for the suggested devices?
This is where a site survey is ideal. Size lets us make a guess but user density, wall material, interference and other factors will all impact us and make it never more than a guess without actually wheeling equipment around and measuring the environment. For something of this size it is often most effective to just overbuild and test.
The overbuild and test is probably the best you're going to do for this. A site survey can be costly especially if you don't already have some of that equipment in hand. That and they are little more then an educated guess at the best of times.
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One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.
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I'm assuming this is a metal building, with a metal skin on it. If so, you treat the L part of the building as completely separate because the walls will block most of the signal.
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On a slightly off topic note: https://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-ap-ac-edu/ I wonder how loud these are and if they are loud enough for the environment. May solve some of the issues with the current speaker system. Nevermind looks like it only supports a mobile app not sure if you could use it from a different device.
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@scottalanmiller said:
One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.
Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.
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@brianlittlejohn said:
I'm assuming this is a metal building, with a metal skin on it. If so, you treat the L part of the building as completely separate because the walls will block most of the signal.
Agreed.
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.
Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.
Good point.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.
Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.
Good point.
You could also go with Ubiquiti switches.
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@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.
Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.
Good point.
You could also go with Ubiquiti switches.
Didn't know they could do the passive 24v that's good to know. Although then you are locking yourself down to one vendor which if you went an industry standard that wouldn't be an issue.
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@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.
Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.
Good point.
You could also go with Ubiquiti switches.
And do Unifi ones for total Unifi visibility.
Although I know that this site is doing a single stack switching design.
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@art_of_shred You have to do a site survey with temp powered equipment spread around if you want to be sure.
Also, you said that this is a warehouse. This means that you have to account for the fact that the wireless will be more degraded once it is filled with product. That is assuming floor to ceiling stock is in the warehouse.
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@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.
Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.
Good point.
You could also go with Ubiquiti switches.
Didn't know they could do the passive 24v that's good to know. Although then you are locking yourself down to one vendor which if you went an industry standard that wouldn't be an issue.
Well, the 24v is an industry standard. Just not the standard we people outside of the WISP world are used to.
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@JaredBusch said:
@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.
Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.
Good point.
You could also go with Ubiquiti switches.
Didn't know they could do the passive 24v that's good to know. Although then you are locking yourself down to one vendor which if you went an industry standard that wouldn't be an issue.
Well, the 24v is an industry standard. Just not the standard we people outside of the WISP world are used to.
I wasn't aware of that generally when I hear PoE I think of the 802.3af/at standards.
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@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.
Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.
Good point.
You could also go with Ubiquiti switches.
Didn't know they could do the passive 24v that's good to know. Although then you are locking yourself down to one vendor which if you went an industry standard that wouldn't be an issue.
Well, the 24v is an industry standard. Just not the standard we people outside of the WISP world are used to.
I wasn't aware of that generally when I hear PoE I think of the 802.3af/at standards.
It's passive PoE. Cameras and other devices use it too.
http://www.rfelements.com/products/integration-platforms/power-over-ethernet/overview-2/ -
@coliver said:
@JaredBusch said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.
Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.
Good point.
You could also go with Ubiquiti switches.
Didn't know they could do the passive 24v that's good to know. Although then you are locking yourself down to one vendor which if you went an industry standard that wouldn't be an issue.
The Pro is great. I have the AC model at home which is POE+ which I have powered from a PoE+ switch.
Keep in mind in a normal factory you have lots of interference. Also don't place the WAPs as ceiling height in the facilities if they are say 20-40' high. Lower them on your support beams to around 8-10ft above ground. Otherwise your just wasting RF energy and more likely to get reflections off of the (likely) metal roof/deck.
Generally you want to put more and lower their RF output rather than put one and attempt cover a very large area.
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@JaredBusch said:
@art_of_shred You have to do a site survey with temp powered equipment spread around if you want to be sure.
Also, you said that this is a warehouse. This means that you have to account for the fact that the wireless will be more degraded once it is filled with product. That is assuming floor to ceiling stock is in the warehouse.
Agreed, what will fill the space?
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@JaredBusch Mostly open space, from what I understand. More production floor than product storage.
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So what does the range look like? Is it a half-sphere, if placed an a flat surface, or does it fan out in some particular pattern? I would assume the first, so if the range is 100', that's a 200' diameter zone that's 100' high at the central point. Given that 35' is the max height, you would lose very little spread by mounting it under the ceiling.
