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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      Scott is of course correct. So if you can recover the files directly, great - frankly that would be a ton easier anyhow, just slave up the drive to another system and pull the files, import them into something else, you're done.

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      • IRJI
        IRJ
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        Maybe I am not thinking this through, but if this is Windows Live Mail or something similar isn't everything hosted online?

        I guess maybe the user has some old messages archived, but Outlook.com offers unlimited mailbox storage so I am not sure why the user isn't just creating folders within their Outlook.com mailbox.

        http://www.labnol.org/internet/gmail-vs-outlook/24531/

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @IRJ
          last edited by

          @IRJ said:

          Maybe I am not thinking this through, but if this is Windows Live Mail or something similar isn't everything hosted online?

          I guess maybe the user has some old messages archived, but Outlook.com offers unlimited mailbox storage so I am not sure why the user isn't just creating folders within their Outlook.com mailbox.

          http://www.labnol.org/internet/gmail-vs-outlook/24531/

          That assumes the user is using Outlook.com and not a third party like say Cox.net etc.

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          • thanksajdotcomT
            thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            I would put the image onto a network drive, then boot your VM with the Clonezilla ISO do a SMB connection and pull the image back down.

            That won't work here. Sadly. I'm creating the image now and are going to try and load it into either Virtualbox or Hyper-V.

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            • thanksajdotcomT
              thanksajdotcom @art_of_shred
              last edited by

              @art_of_shred said:

              @Dashrender said:

              No worries, we all get stuck on crazy little things at times... Well maybe not Scott, but the rest of us normals. 😉

              Right...

              He has no idea...ROFL

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                @IRJ said:

                Maybe I am not thinking this through, but if this is Windows Live Mail or something similar isn't everything hosted online?

                I guess maybe the user has some old messages archived, but Outlook.com offers unlimited mailbox storage so I am not sure why the user isn't just creating folders within their Outlook.com mailbox.

                http://www.labnol.org/internet/gmail-vs-outlook/24531/

                That assumes the user is using Outlook.com and not a third party like say Cox.net etc.

                Right, and in this case, @thanksajdotcom statted that it is an ISP POP3 email system. not Outlook.com.

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                • thanksajdotcomT
                  thanksajdotcom @IRJ
                  last edited by

                  @IRJ said:

                  Maybe I am not thinking this through, but if this is Windows Live Mail or something similar isn't everything hosted online?

                  I guess maybe the user has some old messages archived, but Outlook.com offers unlimited mailbox storage so I am not sure why the user isn't just creating folders within their Outlook.com mailbox.

                  http://www.labnol.org/internet/gmail-vs-outlook/24531/

                  Issue is the email was pulled from an ISP email, which uses POP3, not IMAP/

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    I've tried to recover from the old Outlook Express - the files weren't stored in any type of normal format. Real Outlook for example could not import from OE files.

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                    • thanksajdotcomT
                      thanksajdotcom
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller , if this was going to be an ongoing used machine, I'd agree with the licensing part, but this machine is going to be scrapped the moment I have the data I need, assuming I can get it. It's not ongoing.

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                      • thanksajdotcomT
                        thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        I've tried to recover from the old Outlook Express - the files weren't stored in any type of normal format. Real Outlook for example could not import from OE files.

                        Same issue that you have with Windows Live mail, etc.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
                          last edited by

                          @thanksajdotcom said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          I would put the image onto a network drive, then boot your VM with the Clonezilla ISO do a SMB connection and pull the image back down.

                          That won't work here. Sadly. I'm creating the image now and are going to try and load it into either Virtualbox or Hyper-V.

                          How can it not work there? If you have the image to look at it, then you can mount it. The two go together.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
                            last edited by

                            @thanksajdotcom said:

                            Issue is the email was pulled from an ISP email, which uses POP3, not IMAP/

                            POP3, while silly, is not the issue. It is a setting from the end user to delete the files on download. POP3 can keep the files on the server. It's not a protocol issue, it is end user decisions.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
                              last edited by

                              @thanksajdotcom said:

                              @scottalanmiller , if this was going to be an ongoing used machine, I'd agree with the licensing part, but this machine is going to be scrapped the moment I have the data I need, assuming I can get it. It's not ongoing.

                              Not a factor. Are you making a VM? Then you have violated the licensing. No grey area. No room for doubt. This is a license violation.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @thanksajdotcom
                                last edited by

                                @thanksajdotcom said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                I would put the image onto a network drive, then boot your VM with the Clonezilla ISO do a SMB connection and pull the image back down.

                                That won't work here. Sadly. I'm creating the image now and are going to try and load it into either Virtualbox or Hyper-V.

                                What about it won't work? Where is your Hyper-V install? You can simply copy the Image and the Clonezilla to the Hyper-V host and use everything from there, you'll have to devise a way to give the VM access to the image file though.

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ
                                  last edited by

                                  Train the user to use Outlook.com in the future. It is fully functional and if they are going to use POP3 anyway, there is no reason they need Outlook.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
                                    last edited by

                                    @thanksajdotcom said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    I've tried to recover from the old Outlook Express - the files weren't stored in any type of normal format. Real Outlook for example could not import from OE files.

                                    Same issue that you have with Windows Live mail, etc.

                                    A recovery decision made by the end user. The cost of recovery needs to be paid for by them...

                                    They decided to...

                                    • Use a ridiculous email service instead of a good, free one that is protected.
                                    • To set POP3 to delete.
                                    • To use Windows Live Mail (instead of Thunderbird or whatever).
                                    • To forego backups.

                                    Violating Microsoft licensing on their behalf now is not appropriate. Microsoft is not at fault here. I'm sorry that the customer did not realize that they were doing one bad thing after another, but they alone bear the fault here. Their failures do not make you, Staples or Microsoft required to violate licensing on the customer's behalf.

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @thanksajdotcom said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      I would put the image onto a network drive, then boot your VM with the Clonezilla ISO do a SMB connection and pull the image back down.

                                      That won't work here. Sadly. I'm creating the image now and are going to try and load it into either Virtualbox or Hyper-V.

                                      What about it won't work? Where is your Hyper-V install? You can simply copy the Image and the Clonezilla to the Hyper-V host and use everything from there, you'll have to devise a way to give the VM access to the image file though.

                                      He can access the clonezilla image by booting the VM with a clonezilla ISO.

                                      Also before you go through all of that hassle, check on the Drive and look in C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail

                                      The WLM Database should be located in there.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        From MS:

                                        WLM stores emails as individual .eml files.
                                        They are normally located in C:\Users<userlogin>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail, but you can move the default location.

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                                        • thanksajdotcomT
                                          thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @thanksajdotcom said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          I would put the image onto a network drive, then boot your VM with the Clonezilla ISO do a SMB connection and pull the image back down.

                                          That won't work here. Sadly. I'm creating the image now and are going to try and load it into either Virtualbox or Hyper-V.

                                          How can it not work there? If you have the image to look at it, then you can mount it. The two go together.

                                          Because of the way the network is setup. It's annoying. I have no control over the backend either.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            EML files are plain text. No tools are needing for accessing these at all. Just recover to a CD and give to the customer.

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