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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller Huh - I did say I've never heard a consumer call it xyz. Though you're right that I haven't read the spec sheets on any low end electronics lately, and without reading a break down report I would have no clue that a Chromebook used SD cards instead of soldered on memory chips.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        @scottalanmiller Huh - I did say I've never heard a consumer call it xyz.

        I don't hear consumers use either term. They say "USB stick" or "SD card" or "USB drive." But the latter is rare because that overlaps confusingly with USB hard drives. I can't remember hearing a consumer use the term flash in years.

        But more importantly, consumers allow themselves to be "talked to" using these terms. Called USB sticks SSDs is standard in consumer marketing and labeling.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said:

          ... without reading a break down report I would have no clue that a Chromebook used SD cards instead of soldered on memory chips.

          You can solder on SD cards too.

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            Alex Sage
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            So for a portable copy of Windows 7, a USB Enclosure with a 120GB SSD is a good choice?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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              @anonymous said:

              So for a portable copy of Windows 7, a USB Enclosure with a 120GB SSD is a good choice?

              Depends totally on your goals. You mean a SATA SSD with a separate USB adapter in an enclosure? That will work fine, of course. But it is hard to imagine a case where I would care much about drive speed in a case like that. Especially with such an old OS. I'd use a normal USB stick so that it all fits in my pocket.

              What is your end goal here?

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                Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller Poor Man's Windows To Go. Also used for a recovery environment, that why I am thinking 128GB. Should give me plenty of space to backup data to temporary.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                  @anonymous said:

                  @scottalanmiller Poor Man's Windows To Go. Also used for a recovery environment, that why I am thinking 128GB. Should give me plenty of space to backup data to temporary.

                  If it isn't a gaming machine or whatever, just use a USB stick. How often do you plan to be running this thing?

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                    Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller Everyday.

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ
                      last edited by IRJ

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                      It just seemed appropriate after reading the thread.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        Why not buy a USB 3.0 128 GIG memory stick? gives you everything you want in something that will fit in your watch pocket.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                          @anonymous said:

                          @scottalanmiller Everyday.

                          Weird, why? If you don't mind me asking.

                          And by everyday, do you mean like for a second or you actually want to run off of this?

                          Let's back up even more. What is it you are doing that is causing this need? Let's start at the goal. So far we are driving this discussion deep, deep into the proposed solution and it is very murky trying to help with a recommendation based on a starting point of comparing technology names.

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                            Jason Banned
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                            Same technology, different usage and bottleneck. With USB 3.0 the bottleneck isn't USB but the fact that it's a single lower grade NAND chip. SSDs have multiple flash chips and provide greater speeds because of that (much like having more chips on RAM DIMMs).

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                            • lhatsynotL
                              lhatsynot
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                              Portable copy of Win 7 to be used every day. Does your Windows license cover that usage? Seriously, I'm not a licensing guru so I'm just asking the question just in case you haven't considered i the possible legal issues.

                              I had a rescue disk that had a stripped down version of XP that ran from a CD so I'm sure a USB drive would be sufficient as a once in a while rescue disk solution. Sure, USB 3.0 because why not.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @lhatsynot
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                                @lhatsynot said:

                                Portable copy of Win 7 to be used every day. Does your Windows license cover that usage? Seriously, I'm not a licensing guru so I'm just asking the question just in case you haven't considered i the possible legal issues.

                                I believe that FPP allow that as long as he doesn't virtualize.

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                                  Alex Sage @lhatsynot
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                                  @lhatsynot I asked Microsoft about this, and they said technically I am using the licence that's already on the PC so no licence will be needed for the USB drive.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                                    @anonymous said:

                                    @lhatsynot I asked Microsoft about this, and they said technically I am using the licence that's already on the PC so no licence will be needed for the USB drive.

                                    Ah, assuming that each machine has the rights to run the same level of Windows 7. That makes sense.

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                                      Alex Sage
                                      last edited by Alex Sage

                                      After researching this a bit more, it seems I will be using Windows 10 instead due to it being more up to date, and having much better driver support. Since this will be used on different computers, better driver support is huge!

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                                        Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @lhatsynot said:

                                        Portable copy of Win 7 to be used every day. Does your Windows license cover that usage? Seriously, I'm not a licensing guru so I'm just asking the question just in case you haven't considered i the possible legal issues.

                                        I believe that FPP allow that as long as he doesn't virtualize.

                                        License is tied to the machine so it has to be licensed for it. Windows To Go, is allowed if you have a copy of Windows 8 Enterprise or newer. Windows 7 Enterprise didn't have it. You have to have active Software assurance on every computer it's used on though.

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                                          Alex Sage @Jason
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                                          @Jason http://blogs.technet.com/b/canitpro/archive/2015/01/27/step-by-step-creating-a-windows-10-to-go-workspace.aspx

                                          Windows 10 does support Windows To Go, and you don't have to have enterprise to use it for recovery purposes, I asked them.

                                          I will be buying a full copy of Windows 10 since many of my clients will not have Windows 10 installed.

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                                            Jason Banned @Alex Sage
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                                            @anonymous said:

                                            and you don't have to have enterprise to use it for recovery purposes

                                            You're making your own terms there. The written license states you need Enterprise plus active SA on every computer it's used on.

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