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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Google is so worthless. Instead of MangoCon results, it insists on showing completely incorrect "Mango con..." results. There appears to be no way to make it search on what I actually said versus what it feels I should have said. There is a reason I almost never use Google anymore, the move to make the platform "idiot proof" has left it only "idiot worthy."

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller So what do you use for searching these days?

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        • IRJI
          IRJ @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          Google is so worthless. Instead of MangoCon results, it insists on showing completely incorrect "Mango con..." results. There appears to be no way to make it search on what I actually said versus what it feels I should have said. There is a reason I almost never use Google anymore, the move to make the platform "idiot proof" has left it only "idiot worthy."

          I agree that google can be a pain, but there is no way the majority of people are going to stop using it.

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          • IRJI
            IRJ
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            Don't shoot me for saying this, but is a name change out of the question? It's hard to compete with an alcoholic drink.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @dafyre
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              @dafyre said:

              @scottalanmiller So what do you use for searching these days?

              I've started just knowing where things are.

              I prefer DuckDuckGo. Nothing is very good these days. I feel like the search market has really declined.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                @IRJ said:

                Don't shoot me for saying this, but is a name change out of the question? It's hard to compete with an alcoholic drink.

                What alcoholic drink would that be?

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                • IRJI
                  IRJ @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @IRJ said:

                  Don't shoot me for saying this, but is a name change out of the question? It's hard to compete with an alcoholic drink.

                  What alcoholic drink would that be?

                  No alcohol in mangolassi. I could of sworn there was. lol

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                    @IRJ said:

                    No alcohol in mangolassi. I could of sworn there was. lol

                    Yoghurt, salt, fruit. Lassis are common with non-drinking cultures. Would not taste good with alcohol in it, I don't think.

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                    • IRJI
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                      I just want to be clear that I am trying to help. I think the ads and traffic are great for the site, but word of mouth traffic can only go so far. SEO is really what is going to make the site grow. There is alot of great content on here.

                      Being 1 year old with the sustainable amount of traffic should rank the site much higher. You see alot of blogs with MUCH less traffic ranking much higher.

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                      • IRJI
                        IRJ
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                        Would a name change be considered if it would help SEO?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                          @IRJ said:

                          Being 1 year old with the sustainable amount of traffic should rank the site much higher. You see alot of blogs with MUCH less traffic ranking much higher.

                          When searching for what? Specific examples would be needed. The content here is ad hoc and not tailored for SEO like a blog would be. As a community it is about volume, not searchability unfortunately. Ranking is mostly about relevance. When we are relevant I see us doing quite well.

                          Things that we need are links coming into us, that would help a lot.

                          SEO is definitely big, but would anyone be searching for us by our name? If so, why? If not, then it is just about the content, right?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                            @IRJ said:

                            Would a name change be considered if it would help SEO?

                            It would have to help a LOT given the momentum of the system as it is. In what way would a name change be beneficial to SEO, do you think?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Here is a Google example that I use:

                              Google: "raid link blast"

                              Even from an incognito browser we come up first, even ahead of the same content over on SW where they have more of it and it is older. This works because ML keeps this one more up to date and I am searching for the specific content, but it works and we are first even when it is "not my browsing history."

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                              • IRJI
                                IRJ @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @IRJ said:

                                Would a name change be considered if it would help SEO?

                                It would have to help a LOT given the momentum of the system as it is. In what way would a name change be beneficial to SEO, do you think?

                                If you give the name of the website to some one and they search it, It should come up on the first page of every single search engine. Ideally it should be the first result.

                                I see that being very difficult competing with the name of a drink that has owned 8 pages of Google.

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ
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                                  I have self learned SEO experience, but I am in no means an expert. It may pay off in the long run to have a SEO consultant take a look at the site and have him or her weigh in with their thoughts. I know you and @Minion-Queen have worked your asses off on this site and I think it would be beneficial for site growth and potential ad revenue.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                                    @IRJ said:

                                    If you give the name of the website to some one and they search it, It should come up on the first page of every single search engine. Ideally it should be the first result.

                                    Sure, but why would someone search a site they already have the address of? If they want to go there, they go there. Who would be searching for ML for the purpose of seeing a search that isn't the site itself?

                                    I admit it would be ideal, but what use case is there?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                                      @IRJ said:

                                      I see that being very difficult competing with the name of a drink that has owned 8 pages of Google.

                                      But we aren't competing against people looking up MangoLassis as drinks. We are competing against people searching on Windows, Linux, SAN, RAID, etc.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                                        @IRJ said:

                                        I have self learned SEO experience, but I am in no means an expert. It may pay off in the long run to have a SEO consultant take a look at the site and have he/she weigh in with their thoughts. I know you and @Minion-Queen have worked your asses off on this site and I think it would be beneficial for site growth and potential ad revenue.

                                        You might very well be right, I'm just not sure that that is the SEO we need. People who know the site would already know the name and the URL. People who don't know the site would not have a reason to be using that name in a search.

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                                        • IRJI
                                          IRJ @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @IRJ said:

                                          If you give the name of the website to some one and they search it, It should come up on the first page of every single search engine. Ideally it should be the first result.

                                          Sure, but why would someone search a site they already have the address of? If they want to go there, they go there. Who would be searching for ML for the purpose of seeing a search that isn't the site itself?

                                          I admit it would be ideal, but what use case is there?

                                          I'll admit my targeted users are alot less technical than ML users, but 25% of my direct hits come from Google Searches of my website name. I have a .com name which is easier to remember than .it

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                                            @IRJ said:

                                            I'll admit my targeted users are alot less technical than ML users, but 25% of my direct hits come from Google Searches of my website name. I have a .com name which is easier to remember than .it

                                            Are you thinking of a case where someone hears the name somewhere and then searches to find it?

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