What do you think of Faction?
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@scottalanmiller if you really want to geek out on Layer 2 take a look at this: http://www.google.com/patents/US20130188512?dq=20130188512A1+-+Multi-tenant+Datacenter+with+Layer+2+Cloud+Interconnection&hl=en&sa=X&ei=reUbUsOmKarqiwK10oHgBg&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA
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In practical terms, how is L2 site to site connectivity achieved? Are you installing a gateway VM or a hardware device at the client site, for example?
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@Lincoln said:
Essentially what we deliver to the customer is an on premise data center in cloud.
You lost me there. Isn't "on-premise" the opposite of "cloud"? Please explain?
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@art_of_shred said:
You lost me there. Isn't "on-premise" the opposite of "cloud"? Please explain?
Cloud does not imply public or private, hosted or on premises. Cloud is simply a computing architecture that can be closed, shared, local or remote or hyrbids of any of those approaches.
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Lots of companies are running cloud internally today. I've even heard that most cloud deployments are on site. VMware vCloud and OpenStack seem to be the most common.
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@art_of_shred - It looks and feels to like an on premise data center because the customer gets a dedicated private vCenter host and can bring all their existing virtualization tools that require host level API access. I haven't seen that from many cloud providers.
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@Lincoln said:
@art_of_shred - It looks and feels to like an on premise data center because the customer gets a dedicated private vCenter host and can bring all their existing virtualization tools that require host level API access. I haven't seen that from many cloud providers.
I am unclear as to which part there is unique. Having full access to vCenter and tools for VMware is common. Not something we want as we do not use VMware, just not up to par anymore, but having that was not normally a limitation on private cloud hosting in the past.
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I thought we had a big, scarlet letter to brand sales and marketing accounts here.... I know I've seen "service provider: ones, but I could have sworn I saw a "vendor" one somewhere...
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@scottalanmiller - I'm looking at my competitive matrix right now. It has 8 other cloud providers. Keep in mind we are talking VMWare only here. Only SingleHop really delivers this along with Rackspace. What most cloud providers do not provide is a dedicated vCenter with API access. If I'm being a homer, please say so because I'm not the type of person that just wants to drink the kool aid.
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@RojoLoco - I'm good with that for sure.
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@Lincoln said:
@scottalanmiller - I'm looking at my competitive matrix right now. It has 8 other cloud providers. Keep in mind we are talking VMWare only here. Only SingleHop really delivers this along with Rackspace. What most cloud providers do not provide is a dedicated vCenter with API access. If I'm being a homer, please say so because I'm not the type of person that just wants to drink the kool aid.
Most do not offer this because of the enterprise top tier hosts, Rackspace is the only one offering VMware. And they offer this service. So "to the market" it is a standard feature we would expect from anyone considered a viable vendor. I've never once seen a serious vendor that offered VMware as a private cloud product and did not offer access to the cloud platform to manage it.
Now most do not offer VMware, so offering that alone is a differentiating feature. But more importantly you offer other platforms.
Two things we need to consider carefully are:
- Who are the enterprise players.
- What do they offer.
You have eight cloud providers in your matrix, who are these players? The big ones are Amazon, Azure, Rackspace and Softlayer. Normally these are the only ones really considered to be competitive with each other.
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@RojoLoco said:
I thought we had a big, scarlet letter to brand sales and marketing accounts here.... I know I've seen "service provider: ones, but I could have sworn I saw a "vendor" one somewhere...
Vendors have to go into their accounts and under "Groups" Choose to be identified as a vendor.
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@scottalanmiller done.
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Still need more red.
