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    Is Windows 10 Fall Update a new version?

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      Well Scott made sure that we all understood that Windows 8.1 was a completely different version from Windows 8 because the kernel was different.

      Does that mean that Windows 10 Fall update (1511) is a completely new version of Windows 10?

      The kernel version on my not as of yet upgraded RTM Windows 10 machine is 10.0.10240.16590

      The 1511 version is now 10.0.10586.3

      I'm just trying to understand what makes a version change?

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre
        last edited by dafyre

        I would suggest that it's just another windoze update. Nothing to see here... Except that it may eat some o fyour applications and RSAT tools..

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        • J
          Jason Banned
          last edited by

          It's an upgrade not an update though. Windows 10 is planned for "rolling" upgrades from the get go.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by

            These rolling upgrades are going to be a nightmare for businesses.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
              last edited by

              I was really hoping that @scottalanmiller would chime in here.

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              • art_of_shredA
                art_of_shred Banned
                last edited by

                You want him to chime in about a Windows discussion?

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                • J
                  Jason Banned @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  These rolling upgrades are going to be a nightmare for businesses.

                  Not really you can block them with WSUS just like any other.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
                    last edited by

                    @art_of_shred said:

                    You want him to chime in about a Windows discussion?

                    Yeah, not sure what I could add here 🙂

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @art_of_shred said:

                      You want him to chime in about a Windows discussion?

                      Yeah, not sure what I could add here 🙂

                      I wanted to know if you consider this a new version like 8.1 was to 8?

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @Jason
                        last edited by

                        @Jason said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        These rolling upgrades are going to be a nightmare for businesses.

                        Not really you can block them with WSUS just like any other.

                        Sure you can block them, but then you aren't getting updates any longer unless you're on the LTSB, which most SMBs won't be.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @art_of_shred said:

                          You want him to chime in about a Windows discussion?

                          Yeah, not sure what I could add here 🙂

                          I wanted to know if you consider this a new version like 8.1 was to 8?

                          Windows NT 6.2 to Windows NT 6.3 was a major kernel update with a fundamental change to the core. I'm not aware of any Windows NT 6.5 kernel having been released. If it was, I completely missed it.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by Dashrender

                            Looks like they changed the kernel numbering to v 10.0

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Microsoft_Windows_versions

                            So this is a minor change, not a 10.0 to 10.1, just 10.0.x to 10.0.y... ok

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              A patch level would be expected. CentOS 7 will increment patch number, but not change the minor number.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                Looks like they changed the kernel numbering to v 10.0

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Microsoft_Windows_versions

                                So this is a minor change, not a 10.0 to 10.1, just 10.0.x to 10.0.y... ok

                                Yeah, just a rename like Linux 3. They renamed to line up with other things and did not have an actual major version change in either case.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  OK.. but Win 10 did start out as kernel 6.4... so 6.4 = 10.0 now.. just to make things easier to follow.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    OK.. but Win 10 did start out as kernel 6.4... so 6.4 = 10.0 now.. just to make things easier to follow.

                                    Yes, 10 is the new name for 6.4. So the question is whether 10.1 would be 6.5, or would 11 be 6.5?

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                                    • art_of_shredA
                                      art_of_shred Banned
                                      last edited by

                                      11? Who knows? It might be Windows 2014 that comes out next... lol

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
                                        last edited by

                                        @art_of_shred said:

                                        11? Who knows? It might be Windows 2014 that comes out next... lol

                                        We are talking the kernel, not the OS brand name.

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                                        • art_of_shredA
                                          art_of_shred Banned @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @art_of_shred said:

                                          11? Who knows? It might be Windows 2014 that comes out next... lol

                                          We are talking the kernel, not the OS brand name.

                                          So now 10 and 11 are kernel names? That's what I was joking about.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            Yes, 10 is the new kernel name. And the real question is given that 6.5 maps to 10.0, what would what should be 6.6 map to and depending on that answer, what would NT 7 map to then?

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