Backup File Server to DAS
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Can you explain the P2V process for XenServer?
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@Dashrender said:
Can you explain the P2V process for XenServer?
Well its not P2V for XenServer.
It's P2V for what ever server OS your using.
We've used and had success with VMWare's P2V tool to an open format. Which is usable on XenServer.
We didn't have much luck with XenServers P2V tool on XenServer oddly. Generally the recommendation is to just build a new VM server, reinstall your applications, and move any required files onto it.
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Sure, but it's likely @IT-ADMIN can't do that because of his licensing issue. So doing an actual P2V is kinda important here.
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The P2V process is dependent on the OS he's using.
I'd recommend trying VMWare's P2V Tool first to build an .OVA and import that into XenServer. (Or whatever his hypervisor is)
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why there is such limitation, is it because i'm using xenserver ??
what about using Hyper-v or ESXI, does the P2V would be easier ??? -
OVA files are an open-format.
Meaning every Hypervisor should support importing them into your Hypervisor.
The backup tool I use, creates a backup file for the type of Hypervisor I'm using. Which is XenServer.
So it's much simpler to import a file that is designed for that system( .XVA), rather than a generic one (.OVA) when importing into XenServer.
Does it make sense?
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@DustinB3403 said:
OVA files are an open-format.
Meaning every Hypervisor should support importing them into your Hypervisor.
The backup tool I use, creates a backup file for the type of Hypervisor I'm using. Which is XenServer.
So it's much simpler to import a file that is designed for that system( .XVA), rather than a generic one (.OVA) when importing into XenServer.
Does it make sense?
it make sense for me,
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@IT-ADMIN No that's not correct.
Described here is the description:An OVF is a collection of items in a single folder. Most commonly this is a description file (.ovf) a manifest file (.mf), and virtual machine state files (*.vhd or *.vmdk)
An OVA is a single file. The OVA is the OVF folder contents all zipped into a single file. The purpose of the OVA is when you want to take an OVF and share it, or give it as a download. The OVA needs to be opened into the OVF before it can be consumed.
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@Dashrender said:
OK, I think - so did @DustinB3403 install Xen or XenServer?
XenServer is a Citrix branding of the XCP distro of Xen.
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@JaredBusch said:
@Dashrender every single P2V i have ever done has caused Windows to drop its authentic status and require reactivation. I have never seen it stay activated.
As it should because the OS sees a change in hardware. This is yet another "one of those" items on the list of "why we always virtualize from day one." It's a small caveat, but it is there.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
@JaredBusch said:
@Dashrender every single P2V i have ever done has caused Windows to drop its authentic status and require reactivation. I have never seen it stay activated.
i get shocked, my dream to visualize is broken
Its' changing the underlying hardware. It should be expected that you will need to re-authenticate. We've discussed exactly this limitation stopping you from virtualizing in another thread.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
when i first type the first letter of the key google bring the rest of it, then i found that so many website share that damn key,
does this mean that my key is not genuine and will not activate my VM ??
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@IT-ADMIN said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
when i first type the first letter of the key google bring the rest of it, then i found that so many website share that damn key,
does this mean that my key is not genuine and will not activate my VM ??
That is likely yes.
If you were so easily able to search for a CD key, and in your country you clearly don't care about being properly licensed what is stopping you or the company you work for from finding another product key?
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@IT-ADMIN said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
when i first type the first letter of the key google bring the rest of it, then i found that so many website share that damn key,
does this mean that my key is not genuine and will not activate my VM ??
Unfortunately, it is likely that the key no longer works. But it might, there is no way to really tell.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
when i first type the first letter of the key google bring the rest of it, then i found that so many website share that damn key,
does this mean that my key is not genuine and will not activate my VM ??
That is likely yes.
If you were so easily able to search for a CD key, and in your country you clearly don't care about being properly licensed what is stopping you or the company you work for from finding another product key?
because now, i'm the IT person for the company, before the servers were sold to us with windows system
and i'm not ready to repeat the same mistake and crack a windows copy, -
@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
when i first type the first letter of the key google bring the rest of it, then i found that so many website share that damn key,
does this mean that my key is not genuine and will not activate my VM ??
Unfortunately, it is likely that the key no longer works. But it might, there is no way to really tell.
but any way i will try, but before that i will inform the management that the physical server may be blacklisted and damaged (because when the VM authorize itself against windows with the physical server Key, there is a risk to damage also the physical server )
if they are ready for this risk i will try the VM, if they just said leave the server as it is then i will leave everything physical
i'm right with my plan ?? -
Remember that a P2V done to a different system will not affect the original system. So there are ways to test the key with the existing systems.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
when i first type the first letter of the key google bring the rest of it, then i found that so many website share that damn key,
does this mean that my key is not genuine and will not activate my VM ??
Unfortunately, it is likely that the key no longer works. But it might, there is no way to really tell.
but any way i will try, but before that i will inform the management that the physical server may be blacklisted and damaged (because when the VM authorize itself against windows with the physical server Key, there is a risk to damage also the physical server )
if they are ready for this risk i will try the VM, if they just said leave the server as it is then i will leave everything physical
i'm right with my plan ??You're only "right" if the company doesn't understand that they are putting them selves at a larger risk by your physical server dying.
What will the company do once this server does die? Likely they'll blame you for not doing something.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
when i first type the first letter of the key google bring the rest of it, then i found that so many website share that damn key,
does this mean that my key is not genuine and will not activate my VM ??
Unfortunately, it is likely that the key no longer works. But it might, there is no way to really tell.
but any way i will try, but before that i will inform the management that the physical server may be blacklisted and damaged (because when the VM authorize itself against windows with the physical server Key, there is a risk to damage also the physical server )
if they are ready for this risk i will try the VM, if they just said leave the server as it is then i will leave everything physical
i'm right with my plan ??You're only "right" if the company doesn't understand that they are putting them selves at a larger risk by your physical server dying.
What will the company do once this server does die? Likely they'll blame you for not doing something.
That's a real risk. If the physical machine dies, you face the same issue with the key. You will not have a way to restore from backup if the key does not work.
