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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @Jason
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      @Jason said:

      You can't switch from a Eval to a full version on a DC, member servers it's fine it's just a DISM activation command. But once promoted to a DC you can't have the machine ID changing. You'd have to bring up a new DC if it had already been made a DC before activated.

      But if I wanted to go with 2012R2, couldn't I just put a valid (aka purchased) retail product code into the activation section?

      I was thinking of a scenario where I would license 2016 but use the downgrade rights to get a valid 2012R2 key.

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        Jason Banned @BRRABill
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        @BRRABill said:

        But if I wanted to go with 2012R2, couldn't I just put a valid (aka purchased) retail product code into the activation section?

        Not if it's already a DC. You switch the licensing and you kill the DC and how AD works. You can do that on Member servers but not DCs.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          Terminology is an issue here.

          2016 is currently in beta, not evaluation mode.

          If you get a 2012R2 Eval from MS, While I've never done it, I'd be damned surprised if you couldn't add a valid license key to activate it and leave it running.

          But then the question is, where do you get the downgraded key from? If you don't have any 2012 R2 servers now, you don't have any keys. So either you'd have to buy yourself into a Volume License agreement so you have the current and all the old keys, or you'd have to buy a stand alone 2012R2 server so you have a key.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            Getting into an Open License is probably the way you want to go anyhow - you'll need the server license and CALs too.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @Jason
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              @Jason said:

              Not if it's already a DC. You switch the licensing and you kill the DC and how AD works. You can do that on Member servers but not DCs.

              In addition to this thread saving me a lot of money, that bit of advice just saved me a bunch of time.

              Why in heck would they not allow that?

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                But then the question is, where do you get the downgraded key from? If you don't have any 2012 R2 servers now, you don't have any keys. So either you'd have to buy yourself into a Volume License agreement so you have the current and all the old keys, or you'd have to buy a stand alone 2012R2 server so you have a key.

                Perhaps this is something I am also wrong on, but I thought all versions of MS Server OSes came with downgrade rights. AKA I could license 2016 (when it comes out), but install 2012.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @Jason
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                  @Jason said:

                  @BRRABill said:

                  But if I wanted to go with 2012R2, couldn't I just put a valid (aka purchased) retail product code into the activation section?

                  Not if it's already a DC. You switch the licensing and you kill the DC and how AD works. You can do that on Member servers but not DCs.

                  huh - If I have time this week I think I'll stand up a new 2012 R2 server, make a new domain using only the eval codes to confirm this - no promises on time though.

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                    Jason Banned @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said:

                    Why in heck would they not allow that?

                    AD security is based heavily on the IDs of the computers, changing that breaks it.

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                      Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      @Jason said:
                      huh - If I have time this week I think I'll stand up a new 2012 R2 server, make a new domain using only the eval codes to confirm this - no promises on time though.

                      There's no mechanism to stop DISM from working (as far as I know) on DC; it just will break things.

                      https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj574204.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @Jason
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                        @Jason said:

                        https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj574204.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396

                        I'm not sure what I'm suppose to see at that link. I don't see anything that says a DC can't be converted from Eval to full license.

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                          Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          @Jason said:

                          https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj574204.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396

                          I'm not sure what I'm suppose to see at that link. I don't see anything that says a DC can't be converted from Eval to full license.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @Jason
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                            @Jason said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @Jason said:

                            https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj574204.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396

                            I'm not sure what I'm suppose to see at that link. I don't see anything that says a DC can't be converted from Eval to full license.

                            upload-ddc64f58-b70f-4edf-981b-8c4f254d06d8

                            Thanks - I completely missed that.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill
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                              It seems as though you can install another DC, then replicate, then demote the EVAL one.

                              But I think I'll just go with not doing that. 🙂

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                @BRRABill said:

                                It seems as though you can install another DC, then replicate, then demote the EVAL one.

                                But I think I'll just go with not doing that. 🙂

                                Yes, it wouldn't be a functional AD if you could not do that. You risk schema issues, though.

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