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    dell storage ssd raid sata sas perc perc h310 perc h710 dell poweredge t320
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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill
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      If I decide to put a 3rd party RAID card in there...

      1. Will it work with the hot-plug backplane that is currently in there?
      2. Will it work in the T320 itself? Assuming/hoping it would just be a plug and play.
      3. Will the drive lights work, or will I still have blinking amber? I know it can read SMART, but what control the lights on the drive carrier?
      4. Any recommendation on a particular card?

      Has anyone ever done this on the T320?

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill
        last edited by

        If only we could also cut the costs of the CALs of my bill, too!

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
          last edited by

          @BRRABill said:

          If only we could also cut the costs of the CALs of my bill, too!

          Well.... Linux. 🙂

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
            last edited by

            @BRRABill said:

            If I decide to put a 3rd party RAID card in there...

            1. Will it work with the hot-plug backplane that is currently in there?

            Yes, that is just hardware.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @BRRABill said:

              1. Will it work in the T320 itself? Assuming/hoping it would just be a plug and play.

              All it gets from the server is power 🙂 It's a standard PCIe device. As long as the computer is a PC and supports PCIe, it has to.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                @BRRABill said:

                If only we could also cut the costs of the CALs of my bill, too!

                Well.... Linux. 🙂

                My head has gone from
                9am: swimming
                2pm: spinning
                5pm: almost off axis

                Linux would be the end of me.

                I'm finding out if I can take 1 license off the paperwork. Maybe I'll order the 3rd party RAID controller and my day will be complete!

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  @BRRABill said:

                  1. Will the drive lights work, or will I still have blinking amber? I know it can read SMART, but what control the lights on the drive carrier?

                  Not likely, the lights are not part of the controller or the drives. that would be part of the proprietary mechanisms.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said:

                    1. Any recommendation on a particular card?

                    LSI with 1GB or more of cache. You can get one that basically is the H710 but directly from LSI without being rebranded or having the Dell firmware.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      Have we even talked about what hypervisor to use yet? I think it was HyperV but don't remember if we saw that or I just imagined it.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Not likely, the lights are not part of the controller or the drives. that would be part of the proprietary mechanisms.

                        Not likely the amber will keep blinking, or not likely any lights will work at all.

                        Also, with that kind of setup, where do the SMART alerts go? I'm just used to using DELL stuff and it all goes through their Server Admin product.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Have we even talked about what hypervisor to use yet? I think it was HyperV but don't remember if we saw that or I just imagined it.

                          Yes, going with Hyper-V.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                            last edited by

                            @BRRABill said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Not likely, the lights are not part of the controller or the drives. that would be part of the proprietary mechanisms.

                            Not likely the amber will keep blinking, or not likely any lights will work at all.

                            I'd expect no lights at all.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                              last edited by

                              @BRRABill said:

                              Also, with that kind of setup, where do the SMART alerts go? I'm just used to using DELL stuff and it all goes through their Server Admin product.

                              Up the stack. The drives report to the RAID card. The RAID card reports to the driver in the OS. The driver reports to the OS.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @BRRABill said:

                                Also, with that kind of setup, where do the SMART alerts go? I'm just used to using DELL stuff and it all goes through their Server Admin product.

                                Up the stack. The drives report to the RAID card. The RAID card reports to the driver in the OS. The driver reports to the OS.

                                The OS in this case is Hyper-V

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  Right, OS/Hypervisor. Whatever is sitting on the hardware.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    Again, excuse my DELL ignorance here, but on our current servers, if the hard drive was going, the server would turn orange, and OMSA would throw up an error.

                                    I am assuming with a 3rd party RAID controller that all will be gone.

                                    So in your setups, how is this handled? One of my original things was to keep the predictive alerts in place, and it seems like this solution is moving away from that.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
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                                      you'll have to setup alerts through Hyper-V to notify you when there is a problem. The Dell stuff wouldn't work any more.

                                      Perhaps you want to see if the H170 will support non Dell drives. Might be more in line with what you want.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                        last edited by

                                        @BRRABill said:

                                        Again, excuse my DELL ignorance here, but on our current servers, if the hard drive was going, the server would turn orange, and OMSA would throw up an error.

                                        I am assuming with a 3rd party RAID controller that all will be gone.

                                        Correct, all gone.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          you'll have to setup alerts through Hyper-V to notify you when there is a problem. The Dell stuff wouldn't work any more.

                                          Perhaps you want to see if the H170 will support non Dell drives. Might be more in line with what you want.

                                          XByte might have some more answers about that. They are dell reseller that works on the new and used side. They might be able to tell you what 3rd party SSD work with different Dell RAID cards.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            Perhaps you want to see if the H170 will support non Dell drives. Might be more in line with what you want.

                                            You mean the DELL H710?

                                            Apparently they are all the same.

                                            Though there are a lot of people who do use 3rd parrty drives. I guess it all depends.

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