Backup and Recovery Goals
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yeah, xbyte is spectacular. talk with @BradfromxByte that's my dude right there
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I wonder if it's possible to backup directly yo tape from XenServer. . .
Has anyone done this before?
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@DustinB3403 said:
I wonder if it's possible to backup directly yo tape from XenServer. . .
Has anyone done this before?
Have not tried it. By "directly", do you mean just dumping a tar to tape? Can be done. Or do you want to do it with StorageCraft or Unitrends?
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@DustinB3403 said:
xByte Offers it directly from everything that I've seen on their site.
Yes they do.
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@scottalanmiller I was thinking live from the systems at backup time. Direct to the tape, bypassing onsite storage. (completely dumping it) and just go straight to tape.
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@DustinB3403 said:
I want warranty on everything we're buying. Since we're planning on using the servers for the next several years I certainly don't want it to go down in a year and have to buy another server because we opted out of the warranty.
Although that might make more business sense. Run the numbers.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@scottalanmiller I was thinking live from the systems at backup time. Direct to the tape, bypassing onsite storage. (completely dumping it) and just go straight to tape.
That will destroy your tapes. "All" backup to tape has to be staged first.
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@Dashrender said:
I still question the need for two production servers. You have a 1 day RTO, doubling the cost of your production servers seems like an over spend to me. The only gain you get is if you have a server failure. But you have the additional cooling/heating costs, power costs, possible 10 GigE ports costs, etc.
This is a very important consideration. Going to dual servers is a big expense.
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So it has to go to a local storage first, then to tape.
Kind of what I was reading, just putting thoughts out there.
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@DustinB3403 said:
So it has to go to a local storage first, then to tape.
Kind of what I was reading, just putting thoughts out there.
But if that's the case, you only need enough storage to stage the data, 8 or so TB, not the full 24 GB you've been looking at.
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@Dashrender said:
I still question the need for two production servers. You have a 1 day RTO, doubling the cost of your production servers seems like an over spend to me. The only gain you get is if you have a server failure. But you have the additional cooling/heating costs, power costs, possible 10 GigE ports costs, etc.
@scottalanmiller said:
This is a very important consideration. Going to dual servers is a big expense.
Yeah I've tried explaining that as well. Because hosting the second server off-site really doesn't appear to be an option from the conversations I've had so far. Having two only provide protection in the aforementioned scenario.
A power outage would still result in an outage. And its more to try and protect.
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@DustinB3403 said:
Yeah I've tried explaining that as well. Because hosting the second server off-site really doesn't appear to be an option from the conversations I've had so far.
Is that still the case? If you use incremental replication, can you do it? Have you discovered your daily deltas yet?
Maybe StorageCraft can tell you what your deltas are? If your deltas are only a few gigs, you could go for nightly replication assuming you have that 30 Mb pipe you mentioned before.
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but if you're a 1 site location and power goes out..... power is out. get a generator? regardless of server location, unless you use RDS or have an alt location, you'd be down down down until power comes up.
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@hubtechagain said:
but if you're a 1 site location and power goes out..... power is out. get a generator? regardless of server location, unless you use RDS or have an alt location, you'd be down down down until power comes up.
So are you saying, if you are planning for a power outage, make sure you know the whole plan, and if you even care if the server is working considering the rest of the business?
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@Dashrender said:
@DustinB3403 said:
So it has to go to a local storage first, then to tape.
Kind of what I was reading, just putting thoughts out there.
But if that's the case, you only need enough storage to stage the data, 8 or so TB, not the full 24 GB you've been looking at.
Yes, although if doing that normally you will use the disk as a point for restore too, makes things much faster.
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So I found a rather easy way to find our delta for last week. 12.52 GB. Which isn't that much. Pushed out hourly to an online storage service could be reasonable.
Now to find options..
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@DustinB3403 said:
A power outage would still result in an outage. And its more to try and protect.
But do you need a second server at all?
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The boss just told me to look at the Bronze and Copper options. So that kind of removes the available funds for a second server.
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@DustinB3403 said:
The boss just told me to look at the Bronze and Copper options. So that kind of removes the available funds for a second server.
I'm not sure that I understand the metallic reference.
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Cadellac vs a Honda options
