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    How Big is your IT department

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    • garak0410G
      garak0410
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      Just me... 😄 👍

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Hedgefund I was at was 1:3 with security teams not groups with IT and shadow IT not counted.

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          Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          Hedgefund I was at was 1:3 with security teams not groups with IT and shadow IT not counted.

          Yeah and many of those have had to be bailed out by the government. The financial and banking industries aren't realistic examples to compare to normal fortune 500's.

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          • coliverC
            coliver
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            My last position was 1:100 here it looks like the ratio is about the same.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Jason
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              @Jason said:

              Yeah and many of those have had to be bailed out by the government. The financial and banking industries aren't realistic examples to compare to normal fortune 500's.

              Um, no. Name any hedgefund that was bailed and more importantly which banks needed to be bailed out. I worked in finance at this time and am well aware of the scam that they sold to the public. It was not a bail out, at least the bank that I was at was very healthy and at record profits when the "bail out" as you call it took place.

              Calling record profits and the most successful financials in the world "not realistic examples" is just silly. Don't ignore successful IT departments because you dislike the idea of private banking. Few do IT better.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                There is a reason that the government was so keen to nationalize healthy banks.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  If you include developers in the IT department you get crazy figures. Imagine if Microsoft or Google did that. Their IT might be 100:1 (100 IT for every non-IT person.) Clearly the numbers make no sense at all when you mix operations with IT.

                  That would be like NTG stating their numbers. Our ratio is... infinity since there are zero non-IT department people!

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                  • nadnerBN
                    nadnerB
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                    We are around 1:100 and there are 2 of us.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @nadnerB
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                      @nadnerB said:

                      We are around 1:100 and there are 2 of us.

                      For a typical SMB, that's reasonable.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
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                        I am 1:115

                        But I'm an SMB shop.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          One of the things that is tough is...

                          SMBs tend to count "Internal IT" vs Staff numbers. Enterprises tend to think in terms of "Total IT Staff Including Consultants and vendors" vs Staff numbers.

                          How many SMBs use MSPs? How many count that staff in their counts? Because Enterprises count those people.

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                            hubtechagain
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                            1 with a few arrows in the quiver if needed.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              One of the things that is tough is...

                              SMBs tend to count "Internal IT" vs Staff numbers. Enterprises tend to think in terms of "Total IT Staff Including Consultants and vendors" vs Staff numbers.

                              How many SMBs use MSPs? How many count that staff in their counts? Because Enterprises count those people.

                              I suppose if I count all of you and everyone I converse with at SW, than I'm about 1000+:115

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                                Carnival Boy
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                                I don't know what I am. I do a bit of IT support but I also do a bit of systems development, a bit of project management, a bit of business analysis....

                                But I work in the IT department.

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                                • RojoLocoR
                                  RojoLoco
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                                  1 of me, 35 of them. In all fairness, most of "them" are developers, so I really only have 2 "users" here that aren't technical and brilliant.

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