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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said:

      Even in relative idle times this servers slow. I don't know how old it even is. 6-8 years maybe

      Given that 2003 R2 came out in 2005, it is presumably 10+ years old.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        1Gb/s has a realistic maximum transfer rate of 800Mb/s and that would be HARD to hit and sustain. 8TB on 1Gb/s is 21.2 hours to copy. That's with zero bottlenecks anywhere, just wide open streaming without ever dropping the speed.

        This math alone proves that using NAUBackup to create full backups won't really be much better than the current solution. Definitely sounds like it's time for a network upgrade.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
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          Or just a dedicated 10Gig switch for the management port on Xen and the onsite backup solutions.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
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            Of course I'd have to put 10Gbe NICs into the host servers.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said:

              Of course I'd have to put 10Gbe NICs into the host servers.

              Not necessarily, you only need your aggregate to be faster. I'm assuming that bonded NICs have not been set up? Get that fixed. If every server was 2Gb/s and the backup host was 10Gb/s you'd take rather an amazing leap forward just there. Probably enough to find other bottlenecks.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                If you identify a single server that needs more speed, you can go up to triple or quadruple GigE if need be before making a leap to 10GigE connections.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  You might find a single server or two with 10GigE needs, but likely not the majority. Spend opportunistically.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    Might as well loop in StorageCraft themselves too: @Steven

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      If you identify a single server that needs more speed, you can go up to triple or quadruple GigE if need be before making a leap to 10GigE connections.

                      What's the current cost for a 10 GigE card. Assuming he doesn't already have open ports of GigE, he'll need to buy regardless.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
                        last edited by Dashrender

                        I'm surprised, an unmanged 10 GigE swith 8 port is $760

                        http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122529

                        A two port card from Dell is $650. Third party might be considerably less.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Yup, I've been pushing Netgear 10GigE for a long time now. I think that Dell has some decent 10GigE fiber switches for around $2K as well.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
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                            Damn the 12 port vs the 8 port is double the price of the 8 port, $1450.. ouch!

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said:

                              Damn the 12 port vs the 8 port is double the price of the 8 port, $1450.. ouch!

                              I bet if you check the backplane gets a lot faster.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
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                                It might be the route we go with, 10GigE switch with bonded NICS or dedicated 10GigE NICS on each host.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  How many VM hosts do you have?

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
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                                    1 Currently that is stand alone.

                                    The equipment we're looking into would be a dual host setup. "Primary Primary" so to speak.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
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                                      A long time ago I remember seeing some documentation (sales pamphlet) for industrial 10G switches. Small little units, 5 ports.

                                      I can remember for the life of me their name though as this was years ago.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @DustinB3403
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                                        @DustinB3403 said:

                                        A long time ago I remember seeing some documentation (sales pamphlet) for industrial 10G switches. Small little units, 5 ports.

                                        I can remember for the life of me their name though as this was years ago.

                                        Netgear has some fairly inexpensive managed switches that have 10G uplink ports. I think in the 800-900$ range. You could look into those if you don't need a ton of 10Gbe ports.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
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                                          Yeah I'm thinking we won't need many.

                                          Just device to device basically.

                                          From XenServer host to onsite backup device.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said:

                                            Yeah I'm thinking we won't need many.

                                            Just device to device basically.

                                            From XenServer host to onsite backup device.

                                            Yep, I can't remember the model number but Netgear, in the last year, released a model with 4 10Gbe ports.

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