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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      You already know that the 2 TB drives are going to cost you $400 ea at that size. Sure this is the way you want to go?

      If you move to 3.5" drives you can move up to 6 TB drives. Assuming you can do consumer drives, you're looking at approx $200 a drive for 3 times the storage.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
        last edited by

        @DustinB3403 said:

        Backup storage for the virtualization project you're aware of.

        Why use a "disposable" server with high cost enterprise drives instead of an enterprise server with consumer SATA drives? LFF SATA is so much cheaper per GB, perfect for backup systems.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by

          Just spitballing the idea's and it was the first device I came across. 3.5 SATA would work as well.

          Should I be more concerned about URE's (etc) on consumer SATA's at this sort of setup?

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by

            This would only be for off-host backup, but written to weekly if my plan is decided on.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              Not including the incrementals which are written ever hour, stored for 72 hours and then dumped.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @DustinB3403 said:

                Should I be more concerned about URE's (etc) on consumer SATA's at this sort of setup?

                Depends on the RAID level that you decide to use.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  Spinning rust, RAID 10 of course.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said:

                    Just spitballing the idea's and it was the first device I came across. 3.5 SATA would work as well.

                    But it is not a viable device, so any information about it is misleading. Only use viable devices, even when spitballing.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 said:

                      Spinning rust, RAID 10 of course.

                      Then no, UREs are not a factor.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @DustinB3403 said:

                        Just spitballing the idea's and it was the first device I came across. 3.5 SATA would work as well.

                        But it is not a viable device, so any information about it is misleading. Only use viable devices, even when spitballing.

                        What makes it non via? I'm assuming you can add a RAID controller?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          What makes it non via? I'm assuming you can add a RAID controller?

                          Everything about a C series is designed to be disposable. Everything. Non-redundant parts, cheaper parts. This is literally a disposable node design, like a BackBlaze POD. This is designed exclusively for situations where you have many redundant nodes and you don't care if one or two just die on you.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Cheap for a reason. The C stands for Cluster.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Cheap for a reason. The C stands for Cluster.

                              As in Cluster F*** I'm guessing then.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Ha ha, no not really, but that is a great way to think about it.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

                                  Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @DustinB3403 said:

                                    So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

                                    Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

                                    Would you need RAID 10 for this? Maybe RAID 6 would work for this use case?

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      It's a matter of reliability.

                                      Using consumer grade SATA drives RAID10 seems to make more sense, doesn't it?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        @DustinB3403 said:

                                        So really my only choice would be something like a R720XD.

                                        Loaded with 12 6TB SATA drives in RAID 10.

                                        Why not an R510, much cheaper.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          Plus moving as much data as we have off weekly the write speed gain would be worth it.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @DustinB3403 said:

                                            It's a matter of reliability.

                                            Using consumer grade SATA drives RAID10 seems to make more sense, doesn't it?

                                            Check the price of RE drives in RAID 6. Might be cheaper with 12 drives.

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