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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Jason
      last edited by

      @Jason said:

      And Yet somehow the Storage vendors have some of the most over-priced, over-sold products. I believe there's a lot of profit margins to be made.

      Tons, that is specifically what Dell said drove the purchase.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @Jason
        last edited by

        @Jason said:

        @Dashrender said:

        I wish there was an altruistic set of funds to do a mad advertising campaign for just these types of things - SAN = normally a bad decision, tantamount to the cigarette ads.

        I wouldn't say SANs are a bad decision, it's how you implement them and design your system that is the bad decision usually. It's not the products fault.

        I was over simplifying for the sake of an ad. Almost anyone who would be listening and taking anything from the ad would be in a situation where a SAN is more often a bad decision for them.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @Jason
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          I wish there was an altruistic set of funds to do a mad advertising campaign for just these types of things - SAN = normally a bad decision, tantamount to the cigarette ads.

          @Jason said:

          I wouldn't say SANs are a bad decision, it's how you implement them and design your system that is the bad decision usually. It's not the products fault.

          In the SMB space they almost, but not always, are a bad decision.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Jason
            last edited by

            @Jason said:

            @Dashrender said:

            I wish there was an altruistic set of funds to do a mad advertising campaign for just these types of things - SAN = normally a bad decision, tantamount to the cigarette ads.

            I wouldn't say SANs are a bad decision, it's how you implement them and design your system that is the bad decision usually. It's not the products fault.

            Definitely not the product's fault. Rarely even the vendor's fault. @Dashrender only said that they were "generally" a bad decision, which is true from an SMB perspective. In an enterprise world, they are generally a good decision (cost savings at scale.)

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Jason said:

              @Dashrender said:

              I wish there was an altruistic set of funds to do a mad advertising campaign for just these types of things - SAN = normally a bad decision, tantamount to the cigarette ads.

              I wouldn't say SANs are a bad decision, it's how you implement them and design your system that is the bad decision usually. It's not the products fault.

              Definitely not the product's fault. Rarely even the vendor's fault. @Dashrender only said that they were "generally" a bad decision, which is true from an SMB perspective. In an enterprise world, they are generally a good decision (cost savings at scale.)

              And those ads rarely make a dent in the enterprise world other than to have an exec say - hey I heard about so and so - and the real IT department will make the ultimate decision (but I know this isn't always the case either).

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              • NicN
                Nic
                last edited by

                Anti-trust violation, anyone?

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                • RojoLocoR
                  RojoLoco @Nic
                  last edited by

                  @Nic said:

                  Anti-trust violation, anyone?

                  The american way....

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre
                    last edited by

                    *holds up a bag of Doritos.

                    didnt_see_nuttin

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @Nic
                      last edited by

                      @Nic said:

                      Anti-trust violation, anyone?

                      Eh? I thought we covered that in my question about a monopoly?

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                      • NicN
                        Nic @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @Nic said:

                        Anti-trust violation, anyone?

                        Eh? I thought we covered that in my question about a monopoly?

                        Oops, skimmed too fast, sorry šŸ™‚

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                        • nadnerBN
                          nadnerB
                          last edited by

                          So Unitrends put this article up:
                          Dell: Where Backup Goes to Die
                          Pointless article as it seems like a rant, scare mongering and doesn't bring anything useful to the table.

                          I expected a better.
                          Ā 
                          Sounds like bad blood between Dell and Unitrends (not just competitive rivalry).
                          Ā 
                          Who is the storage vendor under the Unitrends badge on their backup appliances?
                          Seems like Unitrends been caught on the hop.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @nadnerB
                            last edited by

                            @nadnerB said:

                            Who is the storage vendor under the Unitrends badge on their backup appliances?

                            Unitrends, like nearly all appliances in the industry, is built on SuperMicro, a server vendor not a storage vendor.

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                            • nadnerBN
                              nadnerB @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller thanks, that's good to know šŸ™‚

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