i put myself in a big problem
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@scottalanmiller said:
Do you have a means of virtualizing in place? Or better yet, let's start by talking about your backups.
actually i was trying xenserver and virtualize 2 VM : freepbx and pfsense and everything was ok, but this project was not very important, it is only for a garage, kind of a home lab
for the production environment we have 2 dell poweredge T310 :- DC & file server (16 GB RAM and has 4 HD with software RAID 1)
- application server (8 GB RAM and has 2 HD with no RAID)
so i'm really afraide to touch anything especially how to P2V
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P2V is very safe. It does not destroy the "P" while making the "V", it just makes a copy. So you can do it for testing very safely.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
- application server (8 GB RAM and has 2 HD with no RAID)
So no RAID, no backups, no snapshots, no virtualization.... this is crazy.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
- application server (8 GB RAM and has 2 HD with no RAID)
So no RAID, no backups, no snapshots, no virtualization.... this is crazy.
Now that IS scary. Is there a plan for resolving those issues?
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I know for sure it is very toxic environment and in anytime I may face total down time. But how I can deal with this toxic legacy system that I'm in
Note that I may face a licence issue when p2v. Cuz the windows servet is cracked! -
@IT-ADMIN good lord
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@IT-ADMIN said:
I know for sure it is very toxic environment and in anytime I may face total down time. But how I can deal with this toxic legacy system that I'm in
Note that I may face a licence issue when p2v. Cuz the windows servet is cracked!Best answer might be to let them lose everything and to go out of business.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IT-ADMIN said:
- application server (8 GB RAM and has 2 HD with no RAID)
So no RAID, no backups, no snapshots, no virtualization.... this is crazy.
Wow.. just wow!
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@scottalanmiller best answer for the good of the planet perhaps, but I am starting to feel really bad for @IT-ADMIN
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@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller best answer for the good of the planet perhaps, but I am starting to feel really bad for @IT-ADMIN
Thank you very much @MattSpeller for your understanding, I'm really struggling with this crazy business. The it infrastructure is very poor
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@IT-ADMIN said:
I'm really struggling with this crazy business. The business and management is very poor
FTFY
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Dear Scott, according to my preexisting setup, is there any chance to virtualize in my situation?
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Virtualizing now won't undo the damage that has been done to your existing systems, but it will make recovery easy in the future.
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@MattSpeller said:
@scottalanmiller best answer for the good of the planet perhaps, but I am starting to feel really bad for @IT-ADMIN
Yes, he is in a terrible situation. The upside of the company failing, though, is that it would release him from his long term obligations there. It is actually in his personal interest for the company to go out of business.
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@IT-ADMIN said:
Dear Scott, according to my preexisting setup, is there any chance to virtualize in my situation?
Possible but will be very difficult as you have no spare gear with which to do the conversions and no good equipment to run it on. But I think that it can probably be done with some creative work.
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@DustinB3403 said:
Virtualizing now won't undo the damage that has been done to your existing systems, but it will make recovery easy in the future.
He has recovered now.
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Ah, sorry I thought he was still having issues.
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@DustinB3403 said:
Ah, sorry I thought he was still having issues.
anyway, thank you for your concern
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beside from my situation i have a question :
let's suppose that i have i licensed physical windows server 2008 R2, in which i have some application and some SQL instances, if i P2V, is the VM i get will have the same license key ??
i'm confused regarding licenses when it come to virtualization
also is the new VM will have the very same application with SQL server and all configuration and license key ???
i guess for this to work only one machine should be online (P or V not both otherwise i get blacklisted by microsoft) am i right ????? -
@IT-ADMIN said:
beside from my situation i have a question :
let's suppose that i have i licensed physical windows server 2008 R2, in which i have some application and some SQL instances, if i P2V, is the VM i get will have the same license key?
i'm confused regarding licenses when it come to virtualizationIt has nothing to do with virtualization. The problem is that you will be moving to new hardware, you will have the same issue if your hardware fails and you have to replace it. Any major change of hardware, including virtualizing, will cause the operating system to have to verify again. So had they virtualized originally you would have been protected, but since they did not they have decided on having yet another risk that they are not aware of - they can't restore even if they had a backup because the license will never work anywhere.
