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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates @coliver
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      @coliver said:

      @johnhooks said:

      @DustinB3403 said:

      VM to host ISO's from, or to use local storage directly in xen?

      On my rebuild last night I went with this:

      I never understood why there wasn't an option in XenCenter to create a local iso repo. I did the same thing, except used another local drive and mounted it in /mnt/iso.

      This is what I did as well. Mine is a fairly large USB stick though.

      I did have it that way, but when I set up the server again, I didn't use the USB. The drive I have set up is way overkill for an ISO repo, so I might go back to the USB.

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates
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        Out of curiosity has anyone used software RAID with XenServer?

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        • coliverC
          coliver @stacksofplates
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          @johnhooks said:

          Out of curiosity has anyone used software RAID with XenServer?

          Yep, very unsupported but it works.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @coliver
            last edited by

            @coliver said:

            @johnhooks said:

            Out of curiosity has anyone used software RAID with XenServer?

            Yep, very unsupported but it works.

            That's what I read. I was kind of afraid to try it because I saw some people had trouble with 6.5 and it was fine in 6.2. I didn't know if it was worth it to try or not.

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            • coliverC
              coliver @stacksofplates
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              @johnhooks said:

              @coliver said:

              @johnhooks said:

              Out of curiosity has anyone used software RAID with XenServer?

              Yep, very unsupported but it works.

              That's what I read. I was kind of afraid to try it because I saw some people had trouble with 6.5 and it was fine in 6.2. I didn't know if it was worth it to try or not.

              I haven't updated to 6.5 yet. I probably will wait till I get an actual server with a hardware raid controller. Right now i just have a whitebox desktop with 4 drives in it. Works fairly well for what I use it for but I want to expand the functionality in the future.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @stacksofplates
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                @johnhooks Yes, I initially tried it, it doesn't work well at all.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @coliver
                  last edited by

                  @coliver said:

                  @johnhooks said:

                  @coliver said:

                  @johnhooks said:

                  Out of curiosity has anyone used software RAID with XenServer?

                  Yep, very unsupported but it works.

                  That's what I read. I was kind of afraid to try it because I saw some people had trouble with 6.5 and it was fine in 6.2. I didn't know if it was worth it to try or not.

                  I haven't updated to 6.5 yet. I probably will wait till I get an actual server with a hardware raid controller. Right now i just have a whitebox desktop with 4 drives in it. Works fairly well for what I use it for but I want to expand the functionality in the future.

                  I wonder why they don't support software RAID since the Dom0 is CentOS.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @stacksofplates
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                    @johnhooks said:

                    @coliver said:

                    @johnhooks said:

                    @coliver said:

                    @johnhooks said:

                    Out of curiosity has anyone used software RAID with XenServer?

                    Yep, very unsupported but it works.

                    That's what I read. I was kind of afraid to try it because I saw some people had trouble with 6.5 and it was fine in 6.2. I didn't know if it was worth it to try or not.

                    I haven't updated to 6.5 yet. I probably will wait till I get an actual server with a hardware raid controller. Right now i just have a whitebox desktop with 4 drives in it. Works fairly well for what I use it for but I want to expand the functionality in the future.

                    I wonder why they don't support software RAID since the Dom0 is CentOS.

                    My assumption is because Dom0 is just another VM with special permissions. If software raid were to do something bad it could mess with the other VMs? I really have no clue it does seem like a missed segment though.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
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                      As far as I could tell, is they XS simply doesn't want to get involved with Software RAIDs or Fake RAIDs because of the issues that they pose.

                      I could find no other reason.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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                        @gjacobse said:

                        I would think local storage would be easier, faster, and less overhead.

                        However - I could be wrong.

                        Yup, nothing is going to beat putting the files right on an HP SmartArray.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said:

                          On VMWare, I always load the ISO files up on the data store directly so I can mount them as needed for VM creation.

                          Same here. In XenServer I normally mount a CIFS share loaded with ISO files to make things easy.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                            @johnhooks said:

                            Out of curiosity has anyone used software RAID with XenServer?

                            Looked into it. I'm a big user of hardware RAID for stuff in this category, I like the features and need others to be able to swap hard drives when they fail, but it will work just fine.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
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                              So i did the "right" or best practice, in limiting my Environment by not introducing a VM or another host, and just loading my ISO's directly into the share.

                              Awesome!

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @coliver
                                last edited by

                                @coliver said:

                                @johnhooks said:

                                Out of curiosity has anyone used software RAID with XenServer?

                                Yep, very unsupported but it works.

                                Important to note that it is fully supported by Xen, just not the XenServer package.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                  @johnhooks said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @johnhooks said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @johnhooks said:

                                  Out of curiosity has anyone used software RAID with XenServer?

                                  Yep, very unsupported but it works.

                                  That's what I read. I was kind of afraid to try it because I saw some people had trouble with 6.5 and it was fine in 6.2. I didn't know if it was worth it to try or not.

                                  I haven't updated to 6.5 yet. I probably will wait till I get an actual server with a hardware raid controller. Right now i just have a whitebox desktop with 4 drives in it. Works fairly well for what I use it for but I want to expand the functionality in the future.

                                  I wonder why they don't support software RAID since the Dom0 is CentOS.

                                  Too much "extra" stuff most likely.

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre
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                                    Would it be worth installing Fedora or CentOS and installing the Xen packages to learn it... or just go straight to XenServer ?

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates
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                                      Here's another question to piggyback off of that one: I know you can use VirtManager to manage Xen vm's but can you use XenCenter to manage Xen without XenServer?

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @coliver said:

                                        @johnhooks said:

                                        Out of curiosity has anyone used software RAID with XenServer?

                                        Yep, very unsupported but it works.

                                        Important to note that it is fully supported by Xen, just not the XenServer package.

                                        Interesting. May have to look at deploying just Xen in the future. Although I do like XenServer's management.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                          @dafyre said:

                                          Would it be worth installing Fedora or CentOS and installing the Xen packages to learn it... or just go straight to XenServer ?

                                          If you want a more powerful, more up to date Xen this can make sense. But never use CentOS, it lacks support for Xen specifically because Red Hat isn't pro-Xen. Use OpenSuse for the latest and greatest virtualization technologies.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                                            last edited by

                                            @johnhooks said:

                                            Here's another question to piggyback off of that one: I know you can use VirtManager to manage Xen vm's but can you use XenCenter to manage Xen without XenServer?

                                            Not unless you modify Xen to add the necessary APIs.

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