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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by

      So this is the question, as I'm starting to wonder if Microsoft licensing is just worded in a way to get people into a court room.

      Q: What are "reimaging rights"?

      A: Reimaging is the copying of software onto multiple devices from one standard image. Under these rights, customers may reimage original equipment manufacturer (OEM) or full packaged product (FPP) licensed copies using media provided under their Volume Licensing agreement.

      OEM-Specific Information

      Reimaging is the copying of software onto multiple devices from one standard image. Organizations that want to recover their systems by using OEM media or OEM custom images may only do so as follows: OEM media may be used to individually recover an image to a device using recovery media provided by the OEM. The OEM recovery media (1) should match the product version that was originally preinstalled on the system, (2) may only be used to image devices that came with it, and (3) may not be modified prior to recovering an image to a device.

      Using OEM Media to Reimage: You may use OEM media (including custom OEM images) to reimage devices, but only those that were originally imaged with such media.

      So does imaging mean "Making your own image that varies in any way from what the OEM put on the laptop/tower/tablet or does imaging mean the action of deploying an ISO to a target device in any way other than using the OEM Recovery media?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
        last edited by

        @DustinB3403 said:

        So does imaging mean "Making your own image that varies in any way from what the OEM put on the laptop/tower/tablet or does imaging mean the action of deploying an ISO to a target device in any way other than using the OEM Recovery media?

        Both.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by

          Ok if "Both" then using any i recovery method for a personal computer I buy from best buy, even provided by the OEM would land me in court facing off with Microsoft.

          It has to be one or the other....

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by

            The recovery dvd, in the dvd drive would land me in court.

            Using an imaging tool such as fog to redeploy this image via PXE would also land me in court.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @DustinB3403 said:

              Ok if "Both" then using any i recovery method for a personal computer I buy from best buy, even provided by the OEM would land me in court facing off with Microsoft.

              It has to be one or the other....

              Why does it have to be one or the other? I'm confused. What wording makes it exclusive?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @DustinB3403 said:

                The recovery dvd, in the dvd drive would land me in court.

                Using an imaging tool such as fog to redeploy this image via PXE would also land me in court.

                Why? Those are licensed methods?

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  The argument here: http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1173034-need-50-pc-s-re-imaged-lock-down-profiles-etc?page=1#entry-4999307

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said:

                    The argument here: http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1173034-need-50-pc-s-re-imaged-lock-down-profiles-etc?page=1#entry-4999307

                    Where? That is a long thread and I didn't see it in a quick look. Got a quote?

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      The method is the question, can microsoft define how you can deploy the ISO to a target machine, and do they currently.

                      VS is there a scapegoat here that if I use OEM Media to pull the ISO off and put in into a Fog Server, can I then use that ISO to restore my computer?

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        Look at anything from dpaul.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @DustinB3403 said:

                          VS is there a scapegoat here that if I use OEM Media to pull the ISO off and put in into a Fog Server, can I then use that ISO to restore my computer?

                          Of course and I've seen no suggestion to the contrary.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @DustinB3403 said:

                            Look at anything from dpaul.

                            I'm reading his stuff. I see no contradiction. Once you buy reimaging rights you are good to go. What's the issue. Do you have a quote to the contrary?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              You need to explain why you think there is a question because just stating that you see one doesn't guide me to seeing what you are seeing.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                He's saying, in order to use an OEM Recovery Disk (and product key on any windows device) that you must own VL to reimage this machine even with the OEM ISO.

                                I'm on the stance that if I'm using the OEM Recovery ISO, that it doesn't matter how I deploy it to the target.

                                Am I wrong?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  He's saying, in order to use an OEM Recovery Disk (and product key on any windows device) that you must own VL to reimage this machine even with the OEM ISO.

                                  Of course you need that, VL is the only source of reimaging rights.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @DustinB3403 said:

                                    I'm on the stance that if I'm using the OEM Recovery ISO, that it doesn't matter how I deploy it to the target.

                                    Am I wrong?

                                    As far as I know, yes. Imaging is granted by VL. Once you are talking about reimaging rights, VL is assumed as that is where you gain those rights.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      But you can reinstall (reimage) a target machine by using the Recovery Disk.

                                      So where is the difference?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        @DustinB3403 said:

                                        But you can reinstall (reimage) a target machine by using the Recovery Disk.

                                        You can resintall, not reimage. You can't just call installing imaging, those are two different things.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @DustinB3403 said:

                                          So where is the difference?

                                          Where is the similarity? 🙂

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            The similarity is that the machine is back to an OEM state.

                                            How does it matter how it go to that state.

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